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JayeLynn

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posted December 18, 2000 02:30 PM

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my forearms feel litterally like the bones are going to snap. This is only a problem during the preacher curls and reverse BB curls. If I reverse the action (working triceps instead of bi's ... cable tricep extensions and decline skull crushers) it doesn't bother me at all. I'm really looking for some first-hand experience/advise. I can cope with failing muscles, but this is a bit unnerving. Do you think that my forearms need more (building) attention? or, am I growing too fast for my own good. Oh, and by the way, my forearms measured up another inch since finishing my last cycle (pumped at 11 1/4 this morning).

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riptchick

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posted December 18, 2000 02:39 PM

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JL, I did reverse BB curls in my last bicep workout and the pain was excrutiating. You described it perfectly saying that it felt like the bones were going to snap. Of course, I kept plugging away.

I remember when I first started training how everyone told me to be mindful of my bar grip. (Ya know thumbs on the underside with the rest of the fingers)...that way you are hitting the bis/tris whatever solely. I am beginning to wonder if that was such a good idea. My grip strength eventually increased anyway since I am a pull-up fanatic and do hangin leg raises all the time but forearms are still puny. I also am interested in this topic.


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FitnessChick

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posted December 18, 2000 02:51 PM

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I too occasionally get this when I do straight bar curls...never could figure out why some days it bothers me & some days it doesnt...even when I vary my grip it still bothers me....my guess is it is the amount of weight your forearms are holding up.... can anyone lend any insight to this????


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Captain_insano

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posted December 18, 2000 03:10 PM

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You may want to strengthen your wrists and forearms with "Forearm wrist curls" or get a piece of wood with a weighted string and do 3 sets of curl ups every 3 days. You will be able to bear those dreaded reverse curls and not feel as though you forearms are about to break after 6 weeks of training this way.

I am speaking from personal experience.

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skydancer

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posted December 18, 2000 06:26 PM

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I threw in supersets of wrist curls/reverse wrist curls for one of my programs...did 'em for 12wks and eliminated this problem along with improving my grip strength dramatically.


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MS

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posted December 18, 2000 06:34 PM

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I had this problem and it got worse until I went to a quack who said it is likely the 'intra-osseus membrane'. Something to do with muscle impinging on this membrane which is involved in rotating the forearm. It finally went away after 8 weeks of complete rest from any wrist strain (and some anti inflams). So I guess it depends on what's causing the problem. If it's weak forearms then you just need to do more forearm work. If it's from overworking your forearms then you may need to give them a rest. How's that for unhelpful advise.


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JayeLynn

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posted December 18, 2000 07:06 PM

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My forearms are pretty meaty, but I have reached the point where I'm pulling some heavy weights...sometimes too heavy to hold without cheater straps period. This problem didn't hit me until late in my building cycle. On the other hand, I have never done any exercises isolating my wrists/forearms. The additional 1" growth over the last 4 (+/-) weeks suggested to me that the strength is expanding (proportionally?). oh hell, I don't know. Last thing I want to do is break an arm.

Thanks for all your feedback.

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F1hybrid

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posted December 18, 2000 09:01 PM

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I'd avoid the exercises that are causing the serious pain or modify the grip. If its tendonitis it will get worse, to the point where you won't be able to do shit. Pain is a distraction particularly when it is somewhere you don't want it to be during a set. I stopped doing reverse bi curls years ago. The only difference I notice is that I am not in constant pain and I can get a better bi and back workout because of it. I don't care how tough you are, pain will limit your effort and that limits growth.

I prefer the term "common sense straps" vs "cheater straps". Well, I suppose you could call them cheater straps, but that's because you are cheating yourself out of adequately working a particularly muscle group like lats or traps because your grip gives out before the large muscle group that you are trying to work does. Use the straps, and worry about working your forearms when you work your forearms, not when you work other muscle groups.

I work my forearms but I still use straps for shrugs over 405 and pulldowns over 300, I just can't get the reps without them.

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Monster

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posted December 18, 2000 09:25 PM

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That was beautiful F1 *single tear drops from my eye*...

I feel the same way! I use straps on lighter sets too. Id rather focus full concentration on the muscle Im working, rather than splitting it between that muscle and making sure I dont drop the weight!
Of course I do set aside time to work my forearms specifically, since they dont get the work from gripping...

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MS

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posted December 19, 2000 01:05 PM

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Oh yeah, I definitely use straps. If I wanna work my forearms I go rockclimbing I also have adopted a neutral grip on those exercises that were causing me pain. I haven't found it makes any difference to my workout by using this grip predominantly.


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skydancer

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posted December 19, 2000 01:10 PM

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..."405 pounds"....bleah

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JayeLynn

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posted December 21, 2000 01:28 PM

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Well, I decided to up my calcium intake just in case. I also have to admit that it hurt to shake the mustard bottle over last nights dinner. Hence, I have a little visit scheduled with the massage therapist this weekend. I took an extra day's break prior to hitting shoulders (tonight).

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