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Women's Discussion Board Electromyographical (EMG) Research - What you NEED to know
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Moderator Posts: 1947 |
Electromyographical (EMG) Research is an essential research tool allowing physiologists to determine the role of muscles during specific movements. I�ve been reading up on this of late and have really found some startling information as well as confirmation of some traditional schools of thought. I�d figure you all would be interested in this stuff and I'll TRY not to go "F1" or "MS" on ya all So what is EMG, well, electromyography is a scientific method of measuring the level of excitation. Which are electrical charges that travel across the membrane of muscle fibers. It is this movement of ion flow that can be measured on the skin by a surface electromyogram (SEMG). An SEMG reading is representative of the entire electrical activity of the motor units and the frequency of their firing rates for each muscle being examined. Groovy, but what do this do for my Quads????!!!!! Well, the purpose of this study was to find which SPECIFIC exercises cause the greatest amount of stimulation within each muscle group and, as a consequence, to determine which exercises will produce the greatest gains in mass and strength.
Both male and female bodybuilders and strength trainers who were free of neuromuscular disease, had at least two years of Bbing experience, AND were free of performance enhancing drugs for at least two years were used as test subjects. Testing was performed on two separate days. EMG data was measured during all exercises. EMG data was rectified and integrated (IEMG) for one second. Data was taken of a one rep max (1RM) performed 3 times with a five min rest interval. Next, the data was taken of five 80% 1RM with a three min rest interval. Each subject underwent a warm-up of 10 reps of 50% 1RM, 5 reps at 80% 1RM and 2 reps at 90% 1RM with a five min rest interval. Data was analyzed using two one-way repeated measures analysis of variance to determine which exercise yields the greatest percent IEMG max for each muscle. Differences among exercises were determined with the Newman post hoc test.
Decline dumbbell bench press ----------------93%
Incline dumbbell bench press ----------------91% Ok, my hands are killing me.... More to come folks! ------------------ Lobo [This message has been edited by WarLobo (edited December 14, 2000).] | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1392 |
I have read about this before...let me look through my stuff & see if I can find it.... | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1098 |
I guess that would be why the dumbell presses always make me more sore than other chest exercizes. Thanks WarLobo. Can't wait for more........ | ||
Moderator Posts: 1947 |
And moving right along....
Incline dumbbell (db) side laterals ----- 66%
Standing db bent laterals ----- 85%
Seated front db press -----79% ------------------ Lobo | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 225 |
WOW Sir Lobo!! I'm feeling a new dumbell based training cycle in the works. Since many of us tend to be barbell based, hows about a switch to dumbells exclusively for about 6 weeks and see what happens. Any opinions? Experience? Seems that would be an interesting way to get a kick start into some new growth for the new year. I'm getting goosebumps. WW | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 799 |
wow! the decline db press beats the incline and flat......I never do decline....was always told it was a waste of time.... very good info Lobo eagerly awaiting more info | ||
Moderator Posts: 1947 |
On the Db sitch, I have ALWAYS incorporated flys, presses in my bench routien. At times I will do a superset of flat OB bench, followed by Db - It fricking PUMPS YOU UP! And I KNOW - declines.... who would have thought! I started them five weeks ago - worked up to 350 for 4 reps and a 10 sec negative this last Sunday. All I can say is OUCH, MOTHER of GOD HELP ME. I've not been that much in pain from a chest workout in years. I STILL can feel it today! ------------------ Lobo | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 799 |
I always use db's, as well as the bar, in doing chest.....I just find I can only use a lighter weight when using db's, as opposed to the bar with some plates....and psychologically, I feel stronger using more weight, so, I tend to enjoy using the bar more........but really, using db's could be a better and more precise way in seeing my gains.......just a thought | ||
Moderator Posts: 1947 |
I know exactly what you mean LtS and good point. It is rather impowering to slam up some weight. Hey, that's cool and it does work your chest - not like I'm going to give it up any time soon either. But incorporating Db's will hopefully get your bench weight UP! ------------------ Lobo | ||
Moderator Posts: 1947 |
And for all you Bi lovers out there
Preacher curls (Ob) -------------------- 90%
Lobo [This message has been edited by WarLobo (edited December 14, 2000).] | ||
Moderator Posts: 1947 |
Triceps brachii (outer head): Decline extensions (Ob) ------------------ 92% ------------------ Lobo [This message has been edited by WarLobo (edited December 14, 2000).] | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 385 |
Hmmm, Warlobo, very informative indeed. No big surprises either. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1392 |
well I have searched & searched to no avail...i jonw I will stumble upon it when I stop looking....
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Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 199 |
The complete table is listed on p.124 in "Serious Strength Training" by Bompa and Cornacchia. Human Kinetics, 1998. Also check out, "Target Bodybuilding" by Tesch. Human Kinetics, 1999. F1 | ||
Moderator Posts: 1947 |
Damn F1, Do you have EVERY fricking book! And I wanted everyone to think I was doing the reasearch my self :P
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Moderator Posts: 1947 |
LAtissimus dorsi: Bent-over Bb rows ---------------------------93% ------------------ Lobo [This message has been edited by WarLobo (edited December 15, 2000).] | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 869 |
I'm gonna check this out I'm writing up a 6 week workout based soley on the exercises you listed . We shall see.
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Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 225 |
PREACHER CURLZ!! For Pete's sake Lobo, are you trying to blow my world completely apart!! I'm off to Barnes and Noble to buy that book. I am adult enough to say that I have left it on the shelf on numerous occaisons, lesson learned. WW | ||
Moderator Posts: 1947 |
I know... I know.... It has really made me damn disapointed with myself on some of my "standard" lift I've been using.... But I will have a few general comments to make after the last muscle group. And I'm sure this will open up some great debate. ------------------ Lobo | ||
Moderator Posts: 1947 |
Rectus femoris (quads): Safety squats | ||
Moderator Posts: 1947 |
Bicepts femoris (hams): Standing leg curls --------------------------82%
Seated leg curls ----------------------------88
Donkey raises -------------------------------80 And there you have it folks!!!! ------------------ Lobo | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 799 |
squating only to a 90degree angle? What bout always hearing going down as far as you can? Sometimes I go all the way or only parallel.....depends. I'm assumnig 90 degree angle means parallel?? | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 152 |
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Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 385 |
I never do them on the Smith machine. My partner would have a fit. I was always told that if you were going to do just one exercise make it squats. We never wrap either. My hubby and I are the only two (beside one guy that comes in that works out at Monster's gym)that actually break parallel.
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Moderator Posts: 1947 |
Ok, now that I a few free moments, I want to make a few comments about the many exercises that were tested. First thing about the EMG readings, is that it can only read the bigger muscles in specific exercises. For example, you not going to get a reading of the small specific muscles in the back. Second, any of the large compound movements such as squats, deads, and even bench for that matter, work many, many muscle groups. Third, these are site specific exercises. Something to use to hit a lagging area, to better use your time in the gym (get in and get out - right F1?), and to give you a better understanding of what has been shown to work - not gym folklore. Fourth, there are many exercises they did not look at. Hey folks, this type of stuff cost money, so I figured they selected the most popular and went from there. None-the-less, I found this info top notch and I've had first hand experience of incorporating many of the top exercises. I'm sure when IG puts together a workout routine you STILL going to see deads and squats ------------------ Lobo | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 225 |
Well, Santa sent this 'ol gal a lovely new book on training this holiday season. I havent had much time to sit down and give it the once over. Thanks again Sir Lobo for prying open my eyes. WW | ||
Moderator Posts: 1947 |
Sooooo IG.... your on the hook for a EMG Work Out Plan. Anit Santa great! ------------------ Lobo | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1243 |
quote: I had no idea that Smith squats were not stimulating to muscle tissue. 60% as opposed to regular squats is a crucial difference. ------------------ |