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 Read and Read, but couldn't find adequate info...help
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Novice 
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I ordered DMSO off the web, got some TwinLab yohimbine fuel...now what? Should I, A.Crack a yo tab into 1/2 tsp. Dmso and 1/4 tsp. H20, mix up then apply w/ cotton swab to thigh not rubbing in, but letting it sink in on it's own? Or, B. Will plain ole Thiomucase work better w/ much better results. Anyone w/ experience, and I know you have to clean the area 'cause DMSO can transport other unwanted things in the process.Also should I have gotten DMSO from my Health food store just to be extra careful? Any risks or bad experiences from any of you greatly appreciated.    | ||
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Moderator 
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The reason you have not found any info is that for "spot weight reduction" it don't work all that well, if at all. Although I faintly remember someone using it before a show to get the last tad bit of smoothness out..... ------------------ Lobo  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 507 |
I have the information you need. It ran in an old thread "spot reducing with Yohimbe" I'll go look for it. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 507 |
yup, it's still there but won't let me "bump" it up. Feel free to drop me an email if you want any additional information. ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1748 |
Been archived, but you can C&P the url into a post and it will zap you right to the thread.
------------------ Lobo | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 125 |
You're wasting your time with Yohimbe. I've talked to women who have tried prescription yohimbe and it didn't do anything except make them dizzy. I wouldn't recommend mixing a capsule of yohimbe fuel with DMSO. There are fillers in the capsule along with the yohimbe and it will get carried in as well. I am convinced that the only way to change the fat distribution (i.e., get rid of the thigh fat) is to alter the estrogen to testosterone ratio. Every female that I've body comp'd when natural carried their fat on their triceps and thighs. When they juiced, the fat shifted to their back and to a lesser degree, abdominal region but decreased significantly on the tris and especially the thighs. I've never seen a woman with ripped thighs that wasn't juiced. I suppose there are a few genetic freaks out there, but fat on the thighs is a function of an increased estrogen to androgen ratio. When a women hit menopause, her fat shifts to a more male pattern, this is reversed by estrogen therapy. When a women juices, the same thing happens. When she gets off, the fat patterning goes back. F1 | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1298 |
There is really no effective way to "spot reduce". Thiumocase works well only when you have lost all the bf you want & need to tighten up the skin & drain out the last bits of water pre-show or pre-photoshoot----preperation h works just as well---however DO NOT try to use the 2 together to make it "more effective"----it will physically burn your skin & can leave horrible scars---
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 297 |
I'm gonna have to disagree with some of ya on this one. Yohimbine is an effective fat loss agent when used at the right times. The lower the insulin level, the better. Therefore, the best time to take it would be on an empty stomach either in the morning on an empty stomach before cardio, or 2 hours before or after a meal. When insulin levels are high, they render this supplement useless. When and how did you ladies/men use your Yohimbine? Also, what type of diet were you on? This supplement flies on a keto-type diet because insulin levels are too low to decrease plasma levels of catecholamines. The Yohimbine will increase blood flow itself, but will not raise concentrations of non-esterified fatty acids; Therefore, it is able to keep its concentration as a alpha-2-antagonist. Insulin levels will also increase the enzyme phosphodiesterase, which blocks levels of cAMP in the fat cells. Topical solutions, though in debate, do work. It is no magic solution, but you cannot ignore the people that receive positive results, myself included. It has no problem entering through the skin. MR. BMJ | ||
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Novice
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Mr.BMJ, I do believe this to be affective.. 1.I'm low carbing right now. 2.I don't have alot of fat in this area. 3.On an empty stomach, in the morn., clean area rub the solution on, then pop a yohimbine fuel.As far as the yo in the DMSO I'd have to find one w/ out Alkaloids(?) correct? 4.Go to the gym, 10 min. warm-up on the T.mill, then a leg wk.out concentrating on the glutes. How could this not work or at least help, w/ of course proper diet? Interesting.... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 507 |
This is the information I was able to put together when I started asking the same questions. I can't tell you if it works well or not as I had to get off it. I found that it was raising my blood pressure (in combination with other things) too much for the intensity of hockey...thought my head was going to explode. http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum9/07-2000/000102.html ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1028 |
My experiences with Yohimbine are also favorable for female pattern fat-loss. I agree that a non-juiced female will never attain totally ripped legs, but it will help normal women lose more fat than if they didn't use the yohimbine. MOST women (if no one tells them otherwise) think that popping some adipokinetix throughout the day will do the trick and this is where the poor results mostly come from. As MR BMJ mentioned, insulin antagonizes the effects of yohimbine to the point there's no use in taking it at any time other than first thing in the a.m. on an empty stomach. And cardio is a must. The thighs are a tough area to get the blood flowing, and I've found that a combo of yohimbine (at 0.2mg per kilo bodyweight), vigourous rubbing of the fatty areas with a loufa, and application of Deep Heat (night strength or equivalent) to the areas has worked on more than just me. But I do not recommend this until around 4 weeks out from competition or until the woman is already lean everywhere else. It is not for the faint hearted because of the time and smell! And of course, the use of Nolvadex at this stage can't hurt your efforts. Notice the dose of yohimbine is also a lot higher than that found in the likes of adipokinetix. If you use adipokietix as an appetite suppressant/thermogenic I would suggest you pop an extra twin labs yohimbe fuel before your morning cardio (equivalent to 8mg yohimbine). But as JayeLynn found out, not everyone can tolerate this stuff, so start out slowly. But I have to say (yet again) that you will not notice much of an effect from any of these potions and pills if you're not already pretty lean, dieting hard and doing lots of cardio. My suspiscion is that your body needs to be in a state of relatively low estrogen (in other words months of low-fat dieting) for this stuff to work well. | ||
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Novice
Posts: 7 |
A QUESTION....(didn't want to start new thread).... What about low dose deca? Say.. wk.1-2,20mg. wk.3-4,25mg.}checking for sides. wk.5-6,30mg. wk.7-8,30mg.}checking for sides, and if none then... wk.9,20mg. wk.10,20mg. It builds in your system, so I'm afraid it will bite me in the ass a couple wks. in to the cycle. Therefore I wanna take it slow 1st. to see how my body will react.Any suggestions? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 125 |
Oxandrolone 10 mg/d would be a much better choice for a number of reasons previously discussed on this board. F1 |
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posted November 29, 2000 06:24 PM