Motherhood is not nearly debilitating as becoming an armchair quarterback!

Did you get stretchmarks or is it just loose skin? If you got little or no stretchmarks your skin is pretty elastic and should "snap back" (by this I do not mean fast, I just mean that it won't be hanging FOREVER....even though it may seem like it). I've known women who have had up to two children w/o having permanent damage being done to their abs, either skin quality or much separation of the abdominal wall. I've not done a study or anything, but in my conversations w/women it seems that the third baby is what "destroys" ya....but chin up, there is almost nothing that a little perspiration and a good cosmetic surgeon can not fix . (In case you didn't know I did have an abdominoplasty - shaved a foot of loose skin off and put permanent sutures in my abdominal wall - after I had my fourth....but NO LIPO - I grew the sixpack and cut the fat on my own.)

CHILL WOMAN.....you have the rest of your life!

I don't think that George would allow me to take out a banner ad stating what I personally had done. This site gets a lot of traffic and has many members. I know that I do not get a chance to read each and every post on each and every thread so a lot of information is missed.

Many board members have asked on the board and privately through email and I have done my best to furnish EVERYONE w/the most accurate information I could. I have NEVER intentionally misled anyone.

ANd yes, the surgery was expensive (about the price of a vacation), but the way I looked there is no way that I, personally, (this is not my opinion of others) would don a bathing suit or any other form fitting garment, even though I was a size 0 (hence, even though lipo is commonly a part of this procedure it was NOT done in my particular case...I was about 104# when I had the surgery) I had so much loose skin hanging that there is no place that I could have "put" it. So, because I had gone without so many things and deprived myself of so much for so long and I worked so hard to try to get my figure back....my hubby acquiesed.

As a matter of fact of all the procedures that my doc had performed she presented mine as a case study to a conference of her peers because the results were SO DRAMATIC. This was due to the FACT that I had such low bodyfat to begin with and because I had done "bazillions" of crunches, etc to try to get a flat hard stomach....nevermind sixpack - so the underlying muscles though separated was hard and strong. So when she removed the excess skin - A FOOT - and sutured up my abs: VIOLA - the hard flat stomach I had worked so hard for and always dreamed of......the six pack didn't come until I had grown the underlying muscle.

If you ever want to know anything my email is public. Even though it may take me a bit to answer, I try to respond to everyone.

Give it time girl, I'm willing to wager you'll have that flat rock hard sixpack before you know it. And yes, I understand "wanting it yesterday". I really killed myself to get back my old waist line after my first baby because I felt like everybody around me was thinking, "We knew she would get fat after her first baby!" I was back down to my old skinny yucky size 4 about 4/5 months later. Seeing as how you are not into starving yourself into oblivion and working out on fumes.....I'm willing to wager you'll make it there sooner and look a whole helluva lot better than I did. And if it takes you longer - SO WHAT?!.....you'll still look and feel better - squatting 135#, shit I just got up there m'self and from what IG and FC say....my form needs help and A LOT OF IT!

Lisa....I got nothin' but love for ya' !