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glenbenton Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 874) |
posted August 12, 2000 01:53 AM
 
yo can someone gain good strength and muscle mass just doing these 3 upper body workouts? are weights allways neccessary for upper body exercise? i feel that doing chinups and dips are more effective then using weights sometimes IP: Logged |
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MrMuscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1710) |
posted August 12, 2000 02:50 AM
 Chins and dips SHOULD be incorporated in any serious bodybuilders workout regime. they DO build both mass and strenght, but i doubt you would get any "big" just by doing them. variation is the key, i mean, youd have to do more than one exercise for each musclegroup to grow anyway. when it comes to pushups im not so sure...you see these skinny martial artist do thousands of push ups..but they dont have any size on them...and no matter how many push ups you do i doubt your bench goes up ------------------ "...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica "After this show i'll be fat and happy again.....If i make it to the show...." - Lee Priest "Lets put some weight on the bar.." - Shawn Ray IP: Logged |
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glenbenton Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 874) |
posted August 12, 2000 07:15 PM
so i guess pushups can never replace bench presses IP: Logged |
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bignate73 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1337) |
posted August 12, 2000 08:39 PM
tell you what glen. use pushups for a superset. hit the bench or dbells and then use a failure superset of pushups after each set. talk about rough. i used to do them a bit and man, the pain the next few days is incredible. dips and chins are both viable exercises, very effective. i find that doing chins are difficult if you are targetting just your back though. im still building up to using them primarily for my pulldown movement. for now i can still get a good concentrated contraction doing cable pulldowns. working on being able to hit 4 solid sets of chins though. they fatigue me fast and the bar at the gym has got to be coated with teflon or something. hands slip off before my back gives out. go figure. IP: Logged |
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Steelheart Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 671) |
posted August 12, 2000 08:55 PM
Push up beats bench press everytime. Try it. Elevate your feet by using a couch, get 2 stools where your put your hands.. now add weight to your back or strap it on some one... Your whole body works! These are great. Prove that you need more than one exercise per body part. Dont say upper chest, lower chest, outter chest, bull shit either. Prove it to me and everyone who thinks b4 they lift why. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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glenbenton Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 874) |
posted August 12, 2000 08:56 PM
chinups are my favorite exercise overall i do about 7 sets of 6 from the rafters in my garage. i go real slow too if you do em fast you dont get anything out of em IP: Logged |
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bignate73 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1337) |
posted August 12, 2000 10:49 PM
i disagree to an extent steel. i would say that for most bodyparts you could get away with it, except for back.my back wouldnt get an adequate workout from chins or pull downs or barbell rows. i feel a vertical pull down and a row would work. but i will agree that for chest or shoulders, legs and bis/tris. one exercise could work fine. its all about intensity anyhow. most just use multiple exercises because they cant get a complete muscular effort from one exercise or dont feel as if they stimulated the muscle good enough. just my thought on it anyways. good point though. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Stillhere Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 22) |
posted August 13, 2000 01:03 AM
Strap some weight to your self and see if you progress. IP: Logged |
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Steelheart Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 671) |
posted August 13, 2000 04:23 PM
True, back seems to need more exercises...but if you look at the movements of curl grip chins and curl grip rows what do these movement look like? A pullover. Think about arms over head stretched then brought down to contraction. In rows, your arm are stretched down then pulled into stomach for contraction. I feel these two moves could be made into one with pullovers. Exspecially on a machine. Your elbows seem to move in rotation like a semi-arc. Chest, basic movement is a fly movement. So close grip elbow out BP would work the chest really well exspecially upper chest when your hands are close. So why do inclines flys crossovers etc? Oh yeah Mr.O does them. Legs, you need squats, deadlifts calve raise, hard heavy and simple. You work all lower legs muscles with hard exercises. Arms, fuck... delts, presses.... Well here you go... basic and heavy for muscle. I find we tend to get too wrapped up into too many pretty exercise. When you only need a few for size and strenght, plus you burn more calories to stay lean while building huge powerful muscles... IP: Logged |
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Steelheart Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 671) |
posted August 13, 2000 07:57 PM
:P IP: Logged |
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sour jerk Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 346) |
posted August 13, 2000 10:37 PM
yo chins,dips with deadlifts included could build a massively powerful person.but without weight resistance you cant build alot of muscle mass especially if you're experienced to training.. later yo IP: Logged |
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