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 The results of benching with feet on the bench.
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Hotblood Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164) |
posted August 04, 2000 02:40 PM
  
Well all of you guys told me to bench with my feet on the bench. I took your advice and did it. I first did the incline bench 5 sets, skipped flat bench dumbbells and went straight to flat bench bar. I wanted to do a light weight I could get for around 7 to 9 reps so I was sure my form was good. I took a guess at what that weight would be and I was right. It was the same weight I could do with my feet on the floor, for the same amount of reps. I had one of the guys who works out with me when we are both in there at the same time spot me. I told him to watch my lats to see if they contract and my chest to see if he could see any more striations in it while my feet were on the bench. (If there were more striations in it that would prove that my chest was working harder.) First of all, my lats looked the same with feet on the floor, or on the bench. Secondly, there were more striations in my chest with my feet on the FLOOR. This does prove that your chest works harder when your feet are firmly planted on the floor. I can see no reason to put your feet anywhere besides the floor. I thank you for your help, but your chest does not work any harder with feet on the bench, in fact, it works less. Keeping your back flat on the bench is taking your chest out of the movement. You do not do cable flyes, or dumbbell flyes with your chest in do you? Well why would you bench with your back flat? If your back is flat your chest is out of the movement. You can believe what you want, but my striations prove it. IP: Logged |
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Paul Stagg Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 48) |
posted August 04, 2000 02:56 PM
Um, how much your striations 'move' has nothing to do with how hard you are working. Although, you did come to the same conclusion as what I would suggest. Bench with your feet on the floor. Why? Stability. Better form. Less chance of injury. IP: Logged |
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Hotblood Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164) |
posted August 04, 2000 04:01 PM
How can you say that the more striations in your chest has nothing to do with how much you are working it? It has everything to do with it. If you are hitting the muscle you want it is going to contract, pumping the blood in it showing striations. But I do agree with you about feet on the floor. There is no other way to do it right. IP: Logged |
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Paul Stagg Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 48) |
posted August 04, 2000 04:13 PM
Ok. IP: Logged |
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MaxMuscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218) |
posted August 04, 2000 04:46 PM
To all who bench with their feet on the bench, be careful. I used to bench like that and I got injured. Not sure how. I know that my lower back wasn't touching the bench. I tried putting my lower back on the bench but it woud hurt. My back naturally arches up. Just a word of caution. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Hotblood Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164) |
posted August 04, 2000 05:04 PM
I know why you got hurt. Because that is not the way to bench. Not being smart, or anything, you would have to read the other post of mine to understand, (Why are my lats sore after benching?) A lot of people told me that I was doing it wrong and to put my feet up on the bench. Well, I knew better, but tried it anyway. That is crazy. IP: Logged |
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MrMuscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1675) |
posted August 04, 2000 06:08 PM
Ive never tried benching with my legs up, or on the bench. but it seems to me it could be used as a isolation exercise, maybe good when you are dieting down. go light, high reps, that sorta thing. ------------------ "...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica "After this show i'll be fat and happy again.....If i make it to the show...." - Lee Priest "Lets put some weight on the bar.." - Shawn Ray IP: Logged |
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Hotblood Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164) |
posted August 04, 2000 07:05 PM
I do not even think it should be used for that. IP: Logged |
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mac sloan Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 167) |
posted August 04, 2000 11:45 PM
Hotblood,you want to bench with a neutral spine position which means the back should never be flat against the pad as well you shouldn't overarch the back while lifting which means core control comes into play. IP: Logged |
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newguy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted August 05, 2000 12:35 AM
I tried benching with feet on bench too. It felt like trying to squat without holding onto the bar, unstable and unsafe. I see no benefit to it. IP: Logged |
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Hotblood Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164) |
posted August 05, 2000 01:29 PM
I support the new guys reply, sounds like you know what you are talking about. IP: Logged |
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JustinM Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 68) |
posted August 06, 2000 02:13 PM
i bench with my feet up. the reason i do this is because when your feet are on the floor your spine arches to much and then you start to work your lower chest when that is not thegoal...it does make it easier but you will get a better workout (i think) if you actually work what are you looking to work(if you know what im saying)....if you wanna work lower chest then do declines...just try it once and you will feel the burn more in your chest... just my .02 cents ------------------ IP: Logged |
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CB38AC Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 411) |
posted August 06, 2000 09:10 PM
Hotblood... What you said may be true for you but you seem like an ureasonable and obbsessive person. First off why do you have to constantly bellitle and attack everyone who goes against you and throw in a chear for those who support you. I know i for one was getting pretty angry reading this thread and had to say something. It is a discusion board not an 'agree with me' board. Also 7-9 reps is not a light wieght for form and unless you pulled a second bench over you cannot incline with your feet on the bench unless the bench has a built in foot rest. Can't wait to see what kind of response this gets as I'm sure you'll be in classic form CB38AC IP: Logged |
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sour jerk Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 337) |
posted August 06, 2000 10:13 PM
i totally agree with you cb38ac this guy sounds like a prick trying to put everyone down.thinking he knows everything,meanwhile his chest workouts end up being back workouts.so obviously he doesnt know nada!!! hotblood im sorry i usually dont flame any body but youve got some attitude problem bro! people are trying to help you so dont come on here and say their advice is stupid,feet on the bench is an awesome iso exercise highly recommended by poliquin.i doubt your knowledge is anywhere near poliquins.please do us all a favor and check your ego otherwise dont ask any one for advice if your just going to criticize them. and for newguy how the fuck does putting your feet up feel like squatting!!! id really love to see your form on the bench so i can have a good laugh! s o u r jer k IP: Logged |
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newguy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted August 07, 2000 09:29 AM
sourjerk, I didn't mean it felt like squatting. It was an analogy. The movement felt unstable. I was concetrating so hard trying to not roll off the bench that I felt little in my chest. That is what I meant. Sorry to confuse. IP: Logged |
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Hotblood Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164) |
posted August 07, 2000 10:02 AM
First of all, I did not put my feet on the bench for incline. Secondly, everyone was telling me how great it was having your feet on the bench. Well, I tried it and it does nothing for your chest. If you would look at my examples on what type of form you use doing flyes. You would see that your chest is out when you are performing them, why is that? Because you want to work the chest and nothing else. By keeping your feet on the bench your chest is not out and you are not working the chest as much as you would be if your feet would be posted on the floor. Now as far as Sour Jerk you can think what you want about me, I really do not care. I was asked to write back on the results and that is what I did. It did nothing for me at all. As far as making a chest work into a back work out you are so wrong, you have no idea what you are talking about. My chest is ripped so I must know a little bit about what I am doing. And the 7 to 9 rep range is comfortable for me because I usually do not go that high in reps for chest, so 7 to 9 was very easy. I am not unreasonable either. I have an open mind, but the think of it is everyone told me to do this and I was so psyched up for it and it did nothing at all. I could do the same amount of weight either way. Also like I said my buddy told me I had very little strations with feet on the bench, so it could not possibly be working the chest. IP: Logged |
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MrMuscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1675) |
posted August 07, 2000 11:09 AM
hahahahahaha..sorry i just had to ------------------ "...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica "After this show i'll be fat and happy again.....If i make it to the show...." - Lee Priest "Lets put some weight on the bar.." - Shawn Ray IP: Logged |
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Cleaner Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 600) |
posted August 07, 2000 02:51 PM
I've been benching for years with my feet up. It's to make you work and isolate the muscle. As far as balance and stability, You have probably never heard of using chains either. The more you struggle to keep the bar stable the more muscles you are using. If you weren't going to give it an good go why did you come and ask what we thought. One workout doesn't account for shit. You should cycle it in for a month and get used to it. no one said it was easier - far from it - its much harder. It a shame you had already made up your mind. Yes I put my feet up when I do flys and decline bench. Not on incline because there is no place for them. Some times I hold my feet up off the ground. Then again most people would never consider doing my chest workout. IP: Logged |
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Paul Stagg Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 48) |
posted August 07, 2000 03:22 PM
Dude, he looked at the striations moving, and that was the end of it! *snicker* IP: Logged |
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newguy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted August 07, 2000 03:57 PM
Cleaner, you just contradicted yourself. You said it's an excellent iso exersice, than next sentence you say you are using more muscles. Which is it? IP: Logged |
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Hotblood Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164) |
posted August 07, 2000 07:25 PM
Hey, the new guy hit it right on the head. Look I don't want to start trouble here, but this movement does not work by any figment of your imagination. Striation will tell the truth, but if you do not have these to look at I may be able to see where you might think this may be a good movement. IP: Logged |
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Cleaner Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 600) |
posted August 08, 2000 09:27 AM
What I should have said is you incorporate more of the muscle fiber. No - you are right you should not be using more muscles. IP: Logged |
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CB38AC Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 411) |
posted August 08, 2000 09:36 PM
Stupidest thing I,ve heard all week: Hotblood: "Striation will tell the truth, but if you do not have these to look at I may be able to see where you might think this may be a good movement." AAAAAAAHHHHAAA!!!! Then that means cable cross overs are better than bench and leg extensions are better than squats. Thank you noble one for telling us this now everyone run and base your training on this golden rule HAHAHA!! IP: Logged |
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Hotblood Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164) |
posted August 09, 2000 08:59 AM
CB38AC, if you want to be an ASS by all means be my guest! All I said was if you see striations you are hitting the muscle group. I did not say that this was the best power movement you could do for chest. I know I am the one who asked the question about this and now I am sorry I did. I tried what some of you people told me to do and Like I said, "Thank you for trying to help me." But then you get people like yourself who have to act like a complete fucking jack off and say that I am stupid. All I was saying after trying this movement was it does not hit the chest as well as if you had your feet on the floor. If you think otherwise then this is your loss, you keep doing this movement and some day you will find out that I am without a doubt right. IP: Logged |
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Cleaner Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 600) |
posted August 09, 2000 09:14 AM
Hey - Hotbloob Next time you look for your balls why don't you pull your head out of your ass! It has work for years and alot of people if you don't want to do it - who realy gives a shit. IP: Logged |
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Hotblood Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164) |
posted August 09, 2000 09:18 AM
This is what I mean, you have proved yourself to be a real ass hole. IP: Logged |
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newguy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted August 09, 2000 03:30 PM
Everybody is different. What works for some people may not work for another. Everyone has their own opinion. If something works, do it. If something doesn't, don't. Why can't we leave it at that IP: Logged |
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JustinM Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 68) |
posted August 09, 2000 07:20 PM
if you are using more striations then you are using more parts of your chest....if you use less straitions then those few are working harder and you are only using the parts that is targeted (incline=upper.....etc...) good luck ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Hotblood Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164) |
posted August 10, 2000 06:56 PM
JustinM, I never thought of it that way. I think you may be right also. The thing of it is, when I had my feet on the bench I really didn't have any striations, plus I didn't feel it in my chest at all. IP: Logged |
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MrMuscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1675) |
posted August 11, 2000 12:41 AM
maybe you were putting on muscles man..you cant wak around with striations all year and excpect to grow. ------------------ "...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica "After this show i'll be fat and happy again.....If i make it to the show...." - Lee Priest "Lets put some weight on the bar.." - Shawn Ray IP: Logged |
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Hotblood Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164) |
posted August 11, 2000 09:05 AM
I think that is one of my main problems, because I use to weigh 285 and now I am at 200. I went the whole way down to 185 and am now starting to put on weight. I am so worried about getting FAT again it's sick. As I am gaining weight now I am not sure where it is going and am worried about it. I figure I am going to stop worring about what the scale says and just go by the way I look. [This message has been edited by Hotblood (edited August 11, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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newguy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted August 11, 2000 03:14 PM
HOTBLOOD, that's one of the few genuinely intelligent things you've ever said! IP: Logged |
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Hotblood Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164) |
posted August 11, 2000 04:23 PM
You are funny. IP: Logged |
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