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BK Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 44) |
posted July 25, 2000 01:52 AM
  
I've been training for 1.5 years now and I recently started doing te full body split thing.My bis have grown a bit (now 16") but I can't seem to get a good length to them. You know, so that they come down almost to the elbow line? Anybody know of any lifts that can help this? IP: Logged |
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ethertek Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 114) |
posted July 25, 2000 03:17 AM
I also have the same prob....when I flex the bi has a gap in between it and the elbow. anybody got an answer? IP: Logged |
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MrThick Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 7) |
posted July 25, 2000 04:13 AM
Thats genetics, cant really change that. IP: Logged |
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TRIHARD Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 85) |
posted July 25, 2000 05:02 AM
Genetics are definately the deciding factor here, but i beleive you can improve through hard work.I don't have this problem and i have always done reverse curls from day 1, coincidence or genetics? Two bodybuilders that spring to mind are Franco Columbo and Larry Scott.If you look at comparison pictures of both at the start of their careers, and then later on, there is a big improvement in arm development.Scott built the peak and thickness, while Franco did eleiviate the short bicep's he had previously.So where there's a will,there's a way. IP: Logged |
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Fast Eddie Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 28) |
posted July 27, 2000 04:56 PM
Yeh, seems like they lengthened their biceps, but I doubt it. I have done alot of research and talked to doctors and trainers.They said it cant be done(w/o gh)You can make the lower portion of the biceps larger with reverse curls and spider curls. If your biceps are short, do alot of hammer curls, because building up the brachioradialus sp? will fill in the gap a bit. IP: Logged |
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sour jerk Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted July 27, 2000 05:08 PM
its extremely hard to fill in the gap,it is a cause of genetics but you can improve on what you got... i would suggest a month of working your biceps 3 times a week,concentrating on length exclusively... exercises such as incline curls,reverse curls, spider curls,preacher curls,singles on the barbell curls,heavy negative bb curls, streching the muscle should be your main concern... after a month of tourture and a month of rest you may be happy with your results... extreme measures for extreme situations gentelmen. i hope i helped..good luck. IP: Logged |
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IronChick Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 80) |
posted July 27, 2000 07:37 PM
I have this little gap problem and ongoing discussions with my training partner about this very topic. He has the full biceps, no gap. We have both read all the material that says this is genetic and you can't change it. He thinks it has to do with the way you train the muscle and can be changed by doing supinated DB curls. I do them standing behind an incline bench and bend over it like a preacher curl and supinate as much as I can. It's a bit awkward, at first, but does hit the "gap." It's sore in that area after I train. Time will tell if it improves this problem, but it's something you might try. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MrMuscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1498) |
posted July 28, 2000 10:03 AM
i also belive its the genetics that decide stuff lie this. but its also very easy to blame genetics evertime anything is wrong.. "Dude you have a beer belly" you know..i myself have short biceps..the GOOD trhing about that is you get one helluva peak ------------------ "...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica "After this show i'll be fat and happy again.....If i make it to the show...." - Lee Priest IP: Logged |
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IronChick Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 80) |
posted July 28, 2000 04:11 PM
MM - you're right - my partner wishes he had my peak and my split, as well, but I hate that damn gap. I guess you can't have it all. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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JustinM Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 46) |
posted July 28, 2000 05:19 PM
heres my 2 cents... it is 100% gentics....if you have a short bicep then it looks better when it isnt flexed but when you have a longer bicep then it has more to build up when it flexes so you will get a better peak. both have their advanatages...i dont think there is anything to do about...its like trying to move a muscle which isnt possible but if you find a way...tell us all!! good luck IP: Logged |
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MrMuscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1498) |
posted July 28, 2000 05:30 PM
hmm..well you know bodybuilders can move theire height and width of theire lats...so why not biceps?? ------------------ "...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica "After this show i'll be fat and happy again.....If i make it to the show...." - Lee Priest IP: Logged |
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Paul Stagg Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted July 31, 2000 12:54 PM
LOL!!! No, pro bodybuilders do not move the insertion points of thier lats. They just make them bigger. The length is all determined by genetics. The only people who should even be bothered by this are competitors at the regional level. Advanced lifters can try some things to give the illusion of a fuller, more well developed muscle (developing the brachialis to overcompensate for a small peak, for example). For most reading this board, 'lengthening' a muscle is not where they need to focus. They'd be far better served focusing on getting bigger and stronger. IP: Logged |
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MrMuscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1498) |
posted July 31, 2000 01:20 PM
hmm..take a look at Chris Cormier anno 97 then anno 98..you will see how his lats has become lower. hey im just saying what his PT said. ------------------ "...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica "After this show i'll be fat and happy again.....If i make it to the show...." - Lee Priest IP: Logged |
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cackerot Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 151) |
posted July 31, 2000 01:28 PM
know what really sucks? having a short bicep with no peak. it is purely genetic. Justin69 ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Rexie317 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 468) |
posted July 31, 2000 05:47 PM
I got that short bicep thing too, so does my cousin. I hate when girls think that b/c a guys arms arent big he isnt strong. Hell I hate when guys think it too. My arms ain't all that big but I'm a strong guy. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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mac sloan Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 152) |
posted July 31, 2000 10:46 PM
Who is this paul stagg character preaching this propaganda about not being able to change bicep lenght. IP: Logged |
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newguy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 29) |
posted July 31, 2000 11:22 PM
I have that same problem, plus I'm 6'4" with long arms. They just don't look big even though they are 2.5 inches bigger than when I started a couple years ago. My training partner is short, and it looks like his bicep meets his wrist. Makes me sick IP: Logged |
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Paul Stagg Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted August 01, 2000 12:47 PM
It ain't propaganda mac. You know me. I speak the truth. And Chris Cormier's back GREW. The insertion points of his lats did not change. Anyone know if these guys use synthol in lats, or do they stick to smaller muscles? IP: Logged |
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MrMuscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1498) |
posted August 01, 2000 01:32 PM
never said his insertion points cahnged. but he did lower his lats buy changing around on his training program. CHarles Glass knows what he is doing i think. ------------------ "...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica "After this show i'll be fat and happy again.....If i make it to the show...." - Lee Priest IP: Logged |
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Paul Stagg Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted August 01, 2000 01:53 PM
*sigh* Maybe this is just semantics, I don't know. Cormier's lats grew. They retained their geneticly determined insertion points, which means they did not get 'lower'. They may appear lower due to the growth, previously unnoticable muscle became noticable. You don't need Charles Glass to do that. IP: Logged |
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mac sloan Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 152) |
posted August 01, 2000 08:56 PM
haha,Just playing LP,I knew it was you. I saw on your post in MM that you went by this name.I agree with you LP,gets fusterating after awhile,don't it? IP: Logged |
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Paul Stagg Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted August 02, 2000 10:15 AM
Yup, but I keep trying. IP: Logged |
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