posted June 12, 2000 11:06 PM         

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Guys, every time I do squats it seems I pull a muscle in the groin or upper hamstring area. I usually just do about 7 reps with the bar then 6 reps with 135lbs for warmup then put 185lbs and it seems that after the 8 rep i always pull that muscle. Could someone give some info on what I could be doin wrong. Thanx

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posted June 12, 2000 11:10 PM            

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Molson problem solved, i love doing deep squats but you have to stretch for like 10 min before doing them. Need to know what kind of stretches write me back.

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posted June 12, 2000 11:15 PM         

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I play junior hockey so I know almost every leg stretch in the book and I do stretch very well before squats. What kind of stretchs do you recommend.

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posted June 12, 2000 11:27 PM            

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Butterfly stretches.

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posted June 13, 2000 05:36 AM         

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i'd say its a loss in form as the set progresses, especially if its happening on the 8 rep or so.Check your form out in a mirror, on the eight rep are you coming up cruckedly? maybe your pushing more with a stonger leg, or your rounding your back.

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posted June 13, 2000 09:56 AM            

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I feel the same kinda pain when i do leg presses. and im a flexible mofo. i can do the splits al three ways COLD..so i find it strange to.

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posted June 13, 2000 11:52 AM            

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Molson what are the stretches you do for your legs that you learned from hockey?

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posted June 13, 2000 12:03 PM            

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A Perfect Warmup Regiment Before Squating:

5-7 minutes of leg stretches(make sure you target your hamstrings, quads, and especially your groin and adductor areas, butterfly stretches are best for the groin.

Next: 4-5 minutes on a recumbent bike to get the knees , joints,tendons and ligaments warmed up and also your leg muscles.

Next: Do 1 set of 20 (light) on leg extensions, then do the same for leg curls, and the most important do 1-2 light sets of 20 on an adductor machine(yes the machine that mostly women use). This is a great warmup and always cooldown with leg stretches as well. The warmup takes around 15 minutes but I promise it is well worth it. The worst injuries are leg injuries. Legs are the most important bodypart to train, also the most respectable when developed properly.

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posted June 13, 2000 09:48 PM            

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Fuck , I ain't got a problem with using one of them things since they help prevent pulling the goin too. Why are so many guys against the thing? I mean if it works who gives 2 shits what someone else thinks. You can laugh your ass off when they fuck something up that could've been prevented by using a "sissy" machine.

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posted June 13, 2000 10:48 PM            

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Havoc why would you do your stretches before
doing your warm up?
It's like stretching a cold elastic band.
You don't even need to stetch before your squats,I'll probally get flamed for saying that.Most people stretch inncorrectly or to intensely,which weakens the muscle being stretched.

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posted June 14, 2000 07:16 AM            

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Well, your correct you are about to get flamed. The stretching before the warmup is just the order I have been utilizing for the past 7 years and it is pretty damn efficient. As I stated each stretch,warmup and light reps on the machines all serve a particular purpose. The main purpose is basically to get all of the muscles you are going to be using warm and ready for your leg day. Also I would hope you are lying about not stretching before a leg day, thats not real bright. Most injuries to the legs dont heal that quickly, also the poundages you use on your legs are alot more than other muscles can handle so the legs need a solid 10-15 minute warmup. Hope you change your outlook.

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posted June 14, 2000 09:46 AM            

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I used to always pull my groin while doing legs, then I started to stretch after the workouts instead...doing alot of warmups before lifting, like speed and agility drills...NEVER STRETCH A COLD MUSCLE...if you do stretch before lifting, make sure to do some running or ride a bike for a while first

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posted June 14, 2000 12:36 PM            

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ofcourse you can stretch on a cold muscle. as long as you do it gently, its proven that if you some days cant get to the gym for some reason, you should just have a good stretch session. this will help you muscles grow.

i used to be a "track star" did sprints mainly. and i learned that if you dont stretch you are BOUND to get yourself injured. hell, even if you DO stretch you never in the safe zone.

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posted June 15, 2000 02:28 AM            

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Always warm up your legs properly. As a warm up do 10 minutes of light a cardio, followed by 5-10 minutes of stretching. Then do two warm up sets. I recommend that you use high reps. Try doing 20 reps with the bar, then add a little weight and do 15 reps. Your legs will be warmed up after this.

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