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Author Topic:   High Volume VS Low Volume, Vote
Steelheart
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posted June 10, 2000 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steelheart   Click Here to Email Steelheart     Edit/Delete Message
Just wanted to know what worked for you guys.
I mostly prefer heavy low reps and sets. 1-2 sets per exercise 4-6 reps.
Just re-read Arnold Swarzenegger's Encyclopedia where he recommends High Volume.
What are your takes?

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BACKDRAFT
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posted June 10, 2000 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BACKDRAFT   Click Here to Email BACKDRAFT     Edit/Delete Message
Both done in respect of each other,both of them have there benefits.Depends what your goal at the time is.

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Steelheart
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posted June 10, 2000 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steelheart   Click Here to Email Steelheart     Edit/Delete Message
As always..Muscle size with no increase in fat. Im happy at 10%

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cackerot
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posted June 10, 2000 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cackerot   Click Here to Email cackerot     Edit/Delete Message
define high and low volume.

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Steelheart
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posted June 10, 2000 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steelheart   Click Here to Email Steelheart     Edit/Delete Message
crackrot=

High Volume as in 10-15 sets as opposed to my usualu 4-6 sets.

2X per week each body part as opposed to 1X per week.

Im considering this for my monday/thursday workout.

BP 5 X 12-10-8-6-6
Incline 5 X 12-10-8-6-6
Pullover 5 X 12-10-8-6-6
Chins 50 reps
Rows 5 X 12-10-8-6-6
Deadlifts 3 X 8-5-3

[This message has been edited by Steelheart (edited June 10, 2000).]

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cackerot
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 11, 2000 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cackerot   Click Here to Email cackerot     Edit/Delete Message
give high volume a try since you have been on low volume for so long. how long are you planning on doing this?

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Steelheart
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posted June 11, 2000 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steelheart   Click Here to Email Steelheart     Edit/Delete Message
Im starting tomarow, right from arnolds book, maybe its what I need. Maybe its my style of training.

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Vitaman
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posted June 12, 2000 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vitaman   Click Here to Email Vitaman     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 77744808
I prefer low volume but will mix it up once in a while.

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TRIHARD
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posted June 12, 2000 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRIHARD     Edit/Delete Message
I trained like this for years, the result was that i was very lean all year round, but didn't really gain.I think its ok to train a specific lagging bodypart with high volume for a short period, just to shock the muscle but for overall gains i'd stick to low voume work.

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BigWh1tey
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posted June 13, 2000 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigWh1tey   Click Here to Email BigWh1tey     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 75900860
Both have worked for me . I periodize my training , though not formally . Ill go through the winter months with lower volume/ heavier weights and a greater emphasis on true power type training , Then i switch up to a higher volume moderate weight routine that employs more sets , reps , and isolation movements . For me the keys are intensity , consistancy , and momentary muscle failure.
Read some of the Arthur Jones or Mike Mentzer stuff ( even Yates "Blood and Simmons training techniques ( both what he Guts"), Louie Simmons ( westside barbell) , and Parrillo . I guess everything i do is based on mentzers theories of recovery and recommends and dosent recommends for powerlifting )

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renagade
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posted June 18, 2000 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for renagade   Click Here to Email renagade     Edit/Delete Message
Always change it up. Your bodies like a truck on a muddy road. If you stayin the same path you'll get stuck in a rut after awhile but if you change it up every once in awhile your odds of getting stuck will be less.

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genF
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posted June 18, 2000 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for genF   Click Here to Email genF     Edit/Delete Message
I tried 30 sets/week/bodypart that really fucked me up. Now I find 5 sets twice a week
for 3 weeks and then 1 week rest works well.
You can add 10lb to your bench the week you come back from the rest.

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MrMuscle
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posted June 18, 2000 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrMuscle   Click Here to Email MrMuscle     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70512967
i prefer the usuall 3 sets 12,8,6 reps..although i am intriged by arnolds imense training..he had to live in the gym man...i cant see any other way he could have oulled it of

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XdawgX
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posted June 18, 2000 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XdawgX     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 2473175
personally, i'm all about low volume. i've been on max-ot for 5 weeks and i'm loving it.

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mac sloan
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posted June 18, 2000 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mac sloan   Click Here to Email mac sloan     Edit/Delete Message
I like the low volume.

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MaxMuscle
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posted June 19, 2000 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MaxMuscle   Click Here to Email MaxMuscle     Edit/Delete Message
I low volume when I train for mass and strength. When I want to cut up or lose body fat, I like to use high volume training. I get more of a defined body.

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JustinM
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posted June 19, 2000 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustinM   Click Here to Email JustinM     Edit/Delete Message
Your goal is to make yourself sore..(not the ultamate goal..)..so a little of both..i usually do three sets like 8 reps then on the last set ill go real lite and do 30 reps...and it will kill...always change..you want to shock your body

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Vovan
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posted June 20, 2000 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vovan   Click Here to Email Vovan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 57540929
Low volume rulezz for mass,
High volume - for cutting cycles.

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havoc
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posted June 20, 2000 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
Incorporate Both, Every muscle is different and is made up of its own unique fiber contents therefore each muscle is going to respond differently. As an example I would never train my calves like I train my chest. Its important for one to find the perfect formula for his or her body.

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I'D RATHER BE DEADLIFTING
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posted June 20, 2000 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'D RATHER BE DEADLIFTING     Edit/Delete Message
I like to stick with low volume. I feel if you are working hard enough you can blast the muscle in a few sets. Also, after I warm up I like to go straight to my heaviest set. I don't waste energy pyramiding up like 12,10,8, etc. I can blast chest with 5-6 work sets and it will still be sore three days later. I also don't do the same # of sets and reps per exercise. When I talk to people they always say I do 4 exercises 3sets each or 4 sets each. I do 3-4 warmups on the first exercise and 2-3 sets to failure. After that it is one warmup per exercise and 1-2 sets to failure, depending on how I feel that day. I like basic exercises and high intensity for 30-45 min. and then I'm done. This week I'm cutting down my workouts to 3 days from 5 so hopefully the extra recovery will lead to some new strength and growth. Happy Lifting!

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ryry
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posted June 20, 2000 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ryry   Click Here to Email ryry     Edit/Delete Message

go in between, 3-5 sets, 6-12 reps

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