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nobu
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posted June 06, 2000 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
im sure that you have heard this a million times but im giong to ask you guys again: does bodybuilding stunt growth. I am 17 and i think i have pretty much developed, but i am still growing in height i am 5'10. my brother who does not bodybuild is 6'1 and he is 20years old, and he kept growing untill he was at his late 19s.ive heard many opinions on this subjects but i just wanted some professional ones, because now that i am getting pretty serious about training my body, i dont want to deprive myself of my predetermined height. i dont expect any answers, but some info on personal experiences or people you know would be much appreiciated.

some myths ive heard are:

-your body cant grow two different ways
-training with weights enhances growth (horzontally or vertically?)

please, some opinins would be very reassuring.


*if body building does stunt growth i will put it on hold untill im 20, its a painful sacrifice but i will live with it.


"The ultimate meaning of sacrifice is not what you lose, but what you ultimately gain"

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eagledude
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posted June 06, 2000 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eagledude   Click Here to Email eagledude     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68446686
no offense to anyone on this bored, but to stop the fighting about this subject, just go ask a fuckin doctor, thats what i did and he said that bodybuilding and weightlifting at 15 is fine

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Vitaman
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posted June 06, 2000 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vitaman   Click Here to Email Vitaman     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 77744808
If you are 17, than I really don't think you have anything to worry about. Pump away.

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nobu
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posted June 06, 2000 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
docters dont know shit!! i wanted opinions from people with hands on experience!!!!!!

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TRIHARD
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posted June 07, 2000 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRIHARD     Edit/Delete Message
Don't worry about it bro,when i was seventeen
i was about 5'6 the same height as my dad,i started weight training and began to fill out,by nineteen i was 5'8 and a good 17 pounds heavier.Weight training won't make you grow in height, but at that age it won't stunth your growth.The only danger is that if your'e training too heavy you could damage your bone endings which have not fully set yet.So train away,just keep the reps in the 8 - 12 range and concentrate on feeling each movement.

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MrMuscle
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posted June 07, 2000 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrMuscle   Click Here to Email MrMuscle     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70512967
i wish it did stunt growth man...i started when i was 13..and now im 21...and 6'2---wouldnt mind being just 6'

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nobu
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posted June 07, 2000 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
thanx guys i feel much better about myself........let the lifting begin!

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Latimer
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posted June 07, 2000 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Latimer     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah I started around the age of 14 and I was around 6'2 and I'm almost 22 now and 6'4. I don't think it stunts your growth at all. Both my parents are under 6ft too.

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slicksalmon
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posted June 07, 2000 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slicksalmon   Click Here to Email slicksalmon     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 58934410
hahaha, i wish weight training would help you grow vertically. i'm only 5'5 at the tallest. oh well, it's the genes fault.

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Rexie317
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posted June 07, 2000 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rexie317   Click Here to Email Rexie317     Edit/Delete Message
I'm 5'8" and lift. I dont think it stunted my height cause I'm only supposed to grow to 5'11" if im lucky I'll break 6'0". I think lifting before puberty will stunt your height but during the pain in the ass era I don't think so.

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Austin316
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posted June 08, 2000 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Austin316   Click Here to Email Austin316     Edit/Delete Message
why would you wanna be shorter, Id love to be about 6'4-6'5

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MrMuscle
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posted June 08, 2000 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrMuscle   Click Here to Email MrMuscle     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70512967
cuz its DAMN hard to look really muscular when you are tall..you have to add enourmous amounts of weight...just look at Gunther Schlierkampf.

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Steelsoldier
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posted June 08, 2000 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steelsoldier   Click Here to Email Steelsoldier     Edit/Delete Message
I'm 6.1 and 22years old and have been lifting since i was 17 and 5.8

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FitnessChick
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posted June 11, 2000 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
No----that is a very misinformed answer if someone tells you lifting stunts growth...if you start around 14-15 you are okay

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nobu
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posted June 12, 2000 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
thanks everybody, i really appreciate your opinoins and personnal experiences.

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MaxMuscle
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posted June 12, 2000 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MaxMuscle   Click Here to Email MaxMuscle     Edit/Delete Message
I believe that bodybuilding can, if you start out really young, using heavy weights. I know that there are more and more young kids at ages 11-14 who want to be big and are training with weights they can barely use. At this age, their bones are developing and heavy weights may be too much impact on them. Since you're 17, you have nothing to worry about. Keep lifting.

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cackerot
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posted June 13, 2000 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cackerot   Click Here to Email cackerot     Edit/Delete Message
is 15 an ok age to start heavy lifting? i started about 8 months ago 4 of them heavy and my height is steadily increasing. i just wasn't doing any heavy overhead exercises, can i safely do overhead exercises?

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Rexie317
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posted June 13, 2000 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rexie317   Click Here to Email Rexie317     Edit/Delete Message
15 is good to start. I did and grew 4 inches that summer and gained 15 pounds of muscle.

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mac sloan
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posted June 13, 2000 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mac sloan   Click Here to Email mac sloan     Edit/Delete Message
No matter what board you go to this topic always pops up.Cackerot You obiviously know the answer.You just have to be careful,how?
Learn to be patient,learn proper form and technique and try to stay away from heavy lifting(70%of 1rm or more) if your still growing height wise.When growing your growth plates are forming,you can damage them with improper technique and form and heavy lifts.
NSCA has a statement about youth training,BE CAREFUL,soak up as much knowledge as you can about weight training and if you can ask for instruction by someone who is knowledgable.

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Mr America
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posted June 16, 2000 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr America     Edit/Delete Message
Nobu:

There is no problem with you hitting the heavy training at 20 years old. Mac is correct NSCA has an excellent position statement on the subject. Additionally, NSCA has an outstanding position statement on squats. It details out the form and many advantages and disadvantages of squatting. A good reference book for young athletes is "Strength Training for Young Athletes, by Kraemer and Fleck..check it out at www.humankinetics.com

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Curious
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posted June 18, 2000 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious     Edit/Delete Message
Your bones have these things in them called epephyseal plates. These are what causes your bones to grow. If these things are damaged then that can stunt growth. The chances of damaging them by lifting weights...even heavy ones is one in a million. It takes a very large destructive blow to these things to injure them like jumping out of a three-story window and landing on your feet. The use of Anabolic Steroids causes these to seal off which happens when you finish growing anyways. Lift as hard as you want just avoid juice until you are older if that was ever a consideration for you..but I'm sure you already knew that.

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nobu
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posted June 18, 2000 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
Curious, that was some great info; makes alot of sence. thanks dude!

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Goin_Big
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posted June 19, 2000 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Goin_Big   Click Here to Email Goin_Big     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 25536496
I dunno about at 17 or not, but squatting increases the amount of testosterone in the body, which can help to increase bone size and height. I started lifting when I was just 15 and grew almost 8 inches in 3 months. So next time you here that it stunts yer growth, laugh. Oh yea Nobu, you're right, doctors don't know SHIT!!!!
They gave me pills when I had stomach problems before, the damned pills made me throw up.
Live and learn, live and learn.

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nobu
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posted June 20, 2000 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Curous, is it possible for natural supplements to close growth plates? ie. Tribulus Terrestris, Crysin...

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MR. BMJ
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posted June 20, 2000 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MR. BMJ   Click Here to Email MR. BMJ     Edit/Delete Message
I may not be the most qualified person to answer this, but I will throw in my 2 cents. I think you are fine to start lifting even at age 14. If you think about it, most people this age are freshman in high school. I do not know anyone whose growth was stunted by lifting weights while trying to get a little bigger for high school football. I think this is a myth. Also I have many friends who at this age were taking in tons of juice, and guess what? Their growth was neither stunted. In fact, one of my friends was 14 taking in cypionate, deca and D-ball, he went from 160 to 200 pounds in 2 months, and he also grew from 5'9" to 6 feet. Currently he is 23 at 6'1" and weighs 245 and is trying out for a few NFL teams as a middle linebacker.

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mac sloan
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posted June 20, 2000 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mac sloan   Click Here to Email mac sloan     Edit/Delete Message
The same goes for awful routines and exercises done improperly there are the exceptions,people who have been blessed with genetics of a super human,maybe it's luck of the draw???

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