posted May 17, 2000 12:37 PM            

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How to build them up without using the military press?

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posted May 17, 2000 01:01 PM         

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Heavy dumbbell and barbell incline presses for chest should give you good shoulder development or at least give you big front delts.

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posted May 17, 2000 01:07 PM            

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Side laterals will help give size to the shoulders. Dips will build up the shoulders, as well as the chest depending on how you lean and hand placement. Do not forget rear delt raises to balance out the shoulder workout.

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posted May 17, 2000 01:53 PM            

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I would like to notify everyone on the board that Iron God has no whapper.

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posted May 17, 2000 02:17 PM         

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you will pay dearly for that remark , you just stand by till I get back to CONUS

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posted May 17, 2000 02:21 PM            

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It's ok everyone Irongod is my brother, but he still will have to pay! Whooooo!

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posted May 17, 2000 11:28 PM            

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other than military presses...good shoulder exercises are power cleans, hang cleans, upright rows, side, front, and rear raises

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posted May 18, 2000 05:08 AM         

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Just on question - what's your problem with military presses?

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posted May 18, 2000 11:34 AM            

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What the heck is a whapper???

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posted May 18, 2000 11:52 AM            

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my question exactly..whats wrong with military presses...and WHAT is a whapper?

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posted May 18, 2000 12:19 PM            

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Let's clarify this whapper issue, and then we can move on to the task at hand.

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posted May 18, 2000 04:24 PM            

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If you have a problem doing pressing motions for shoulders you are going to have a hard time putting quality size on your delts.

"The more you sweat in training the less you bleed in battle"

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