posted May 16, 2000 07:50 PM            

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i can't seem to get certain muscles sore. my biceps, back, calves, traps, and forearms never get sore. i work heavy weights to failure with great form. i bust my balls lifting and when i don't wake up the next morning sore i get worried. does it mean i didn't do anything to break down my muscles. do you have to get sore? does this mean i am not working them hard enough?

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posted May 16, 2000 09:26 PM            

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For calves, up the sets, i do about twelve per workout, this may be overtraining for some but it works for me. Forearms don't generally get sore, but they'll grow. Back, you better make sure you have that "perfect form" you say you have because that should get pretty sore. And your bi's probably aren't getting sore because you're probably doing them after back and your forearms are too pumped for you bi's to do enough of the work in your bi routine. Hope i helped, e-mail me if you need more help.

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posted May 17, 2000 07:45 PM            

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I would think you should be feeling some soreness, even if it is very minor. It probably should not be as nearly as intense as the first time you lifted. Try playing around with different ways of doing your last sets on each body part like pyramiding, drop sets, or super sets. A change might bring about some soreness. Also stretch after you warm up, during the sets, and maybe even when you are finished.

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posted May 18, 2000 05:18 AM         

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I also like to be sore but I've been told that it's not imperative for growth. The way you judge whether you have worked a muscle is to see whether you can lift less weight or sets at the end of your workout compared to the start.

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posted May 18, 2000 11:03 AM            

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As long as your increasing each workout your fine. Be it by one more rep or pound or whatever. Gains come from upping the weight not by how sore you are. I guarantee if you throw 45's on each side and bench it to failure for 3 sets you'll be sore the next day but might not get any gains from it.

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posted May 18, 2000 03:53 PM            

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you might think your working your muscles correctly but i bet youre not,the feeling of soreness the next day is crucial to growth,its because youve broken down your muscles the day before and now your body is repairing the damage and maybe even give u growth.how could you trash your muscles the day before and not feel anything the next day.every person i know gets sore the next day.it doesnt promise growth but atleast you know u trashed your muscles.even my forearms are sore next day if i trash em enuff.i suggest you have an experienced bodybuilder look over your routine to check out whats wrong he'll point u in the right direction.

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posted June 08, 2000 06:31 PM            

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PUMP HARDER, LONGER, HEAVIER

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posted June 12, 2000 12:00 AM         

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No need to feel overly sore, like Haney says:
STIMULATE, DON'T ANNHIALATE.

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posted June 12, 2000 12:20 AM         

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A couple of tips from an old fart, if you want them:
1) change the angle of your exercises often (for example, curls on an incline bench).
2) slow the negative portion of the rep until you feel serious burn. This will assault the muscle fibers so that they will begin to recruit other muscle fibers to accomodate work load.
3) change up your routines about every month to keep your muscles from adapting (adaptation is one reason why you don't get sore anymore). You can only imagine how sore you or I would be if we went and trained with the BUDs in the Navy SEALs...although I have enough muscle and endurance, I'd be one dead puppy after all the work.
4)change the number of reps each week to keep adaptation to a minimum.

If you still can't get a sore feeling, if that's really what you seek, then check out the following article cowritten by Dan Duchaine: http://roid.com/30days.htm

I guarantee this routine will make you as sore as you want, although I personally don't think soreness is essential for muscle growth nor is a good indicator of potential for muscle growth. In my humble opinion, just change up your routine every month and you should get what you're looking for.
Good luck and keep us posted on your results.

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posted June 12, 2000 12:30 AM         

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I have trouble getting sore the next day too and I also take each set to failure. I find though that varying exercises and switching things around to stimulate other fibers helps. For example if you've been doing concentration curls for 2 months, switch to hammer curls for a while.

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posted June 16, 2000 04:06 PM            

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You could be over training.
You may need a break. I would rest for a good week and then start back up.
Also check out your diet, that plays a role in recovery too.

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