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Glenny15 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 4) |
posted May 05, 2000 12:18 AM
   Ok, I see all these posts about how you're weight training, and trying to gain weight, and how you need to eat more and have a good diet...well, I dont want to gain weight, I want to lose weight while Im training...so I need some help...right now hers my schedule: Everyday I wake up at 4:30 for a 3 mile run and after on Mon, Wed, and Fri I do weightlifting:bench, mil. press, bis, and tris...and in the morning I eat a Bio Protien Bar with water, then at my break at school I have a banana, and at lunch I have an orange and a slim fast...and then when I get home I have a snack or some sort of dinner in bettween 3 and 4 pm, and I leave for work and get home at 8 to have some small snack...is this enough...right now I'm 6'1" 210 lbs...I want to train for football next year, but I also want to get my weight down, I am hoping to be like 6'2" 185 lbs, and less than 20% body fat...and I want to try to get it ias fast as possible, any suggestions? IP: Logged |
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StevieD Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 84) |
posted May 05, 2000 05:19 AM
Wow what a lot of info. Right here's my advice. You are 15 (I think) so your first priority should be to save your bones and joints because they have not yet formed properly - so be very careful with the weights. You don't sound like you want to be a massive bodybuilder (losing weight and gaining mass do not go hand in hand for beginner). You need to sort out what you want really. If you want to gain muscle and mass I could suggest a lot of things to change. But since you want to lose weight but develop some lean muscle I would stick with what you are doing. Be careful with the eating though. I don't see a massive amount of carbs in your diet. When weight training, use good form, wear a belt and be safe. Your only 15. Don't get so hung up. What any more info? IP: Logged |
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Glenny15 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 4) |
posted May 05, 2000 09:06 AM
ok, as long as it looks ok, that is good enough...btw I am 18 and wanted to be ready for football at my local JC... IP: Logged |
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NewNatural Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30) |
posted May 05, 2000 12:50 PM
Hey Glenny looks good, I too am in the process of trying to shed those pounds. Have gone from 215 - 185 and only 5 pounds left beofore I start bulking again!!! 1 bit of advice. On your weight training days I would lift first and then do your cardio. When you lift weights intensly you burn your glycogen stores and after that your body is forced to burn fat for energy. Same concept as doing cardio on an empty stomach which you are doing anyways but this way your workouts will most likely be more intense and you'll get more out of your cardio. Also focus on the big compound lifts like bench, squat, and deadlift, eat your protein, and drink your water. Making sure you have at least a gallon of water a day will help speed the fat loos because water is a diuretic (sp??) Remember the more muscle ya got the more calories you burn even while your sleeping. Looks good and keep us posted on your progress!! IP: Logged |
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Samuel Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 38) |
posted May 06, 2000 01:21 PM
You guys don't think he should up his protien just a little even though hes trying to loose weight? IP: Logged |
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MrMuscle Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 50) |
posted May 06, 2000 02:43 PM
i agree with Samuel. If u are trying to loose weight, tha last thing u should do is under eat. The body will go into lock down. And nomatter how much u try, u wont be able to loose any weight. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Glenny15 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 4) |
posted May 06, 2000 03:15 PM
what would be the best way of protien with the least amount of fat? IP: Logged |
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StevieD Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 84) |
posted May 08, 2000 06:38 AM
Drink protein shakes that are low in carbs and fat. Btw why are you called Glenny15 if you are 18? IP: Logged |
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Glenny15 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 4) |
posted May 08, 2000 08:54 AM
15 has always been my lucky number...I have that number in everything... IP: Logged |
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NewNatural Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30) |
posted May 08, 2000 11:02 AM
I agree with Stevie, when I'm dieting I usually have 2 protein shakes, 1 in between my breakfast and lunch and one a few hours before dinner, or post workout on lifting days. IP: Logged |
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somec- Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51) |
posted May 08, 2000 11:02 AM
Glenny...good sources of high protein, low fat are tuna, turkey breast, chicken breast, egg whites, lean red meat, skim milk. Try to eat between 1 and 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight, so you'll want to get around 210 grams or more of protein per day, evenly spread throughout the day. Muscle needs protein, so don't skimp on the protein. IP: Logged |
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Stone Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11) |
posted May 08, 2000 07:44 PM
Eating large amounts of protein, lifting heavy weights, and splitting body parts through out the week will make you bigger. If you want to get lean and fast, like I did when I was a wide receiver, you need to eat 5-6 times a day of a small amount of protein/carbs/fat in every meal. That will level off your insulin and increase your metabolism. Circuit training, working every body part, positives and negatives, with emphasis on legwork will improve your muscle tone and response time. Depending on your condition, adding a little more carbs prior to your workouts will improve your conditioning, giving more energy for your workouts. The stronger you are the more carbs you can tolerate and should increase without gaining weight. In fact, the faster you get the more carbs you need to stay healthy. You should drink a small amount of carbs before you work out or a game so your body has a quick source of energy. Some people will eat a small potato a few hours before so the carbs are burned slowly and don�t run out during an event. I don't play anymore and have not for many years, but I know how to get lean/fast. I am now starting to get huge instead and what most of the people here are telling you will make you huge if you do one body part a week and pig out on 1-1/2 grams/lb of protein a day. Eat a small amount of protein like an egg or half a chicken breast, a small veggie like a potato, and a small piece of fruit like a banana 6 times a day and you will most likely burn off fat sitting still. Once your body realizes you are not hungry all the time it will shed off the fat without eating muscle. You sound like you are very active and avoiding fat is not necessary, in fact, fat does not turn to fat in your body, eating too much carbs at one sitting without exercising will turn to fat. Fat will just burn up if your metabolism is high so don't worry too much about it. IP: Logged |
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brandon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 34) |
posted May 09, 2000 02:34 AM
1. Explain why it is that you do not want to add muscular weight. No matter what position you play in sports, muscle mass and strength are going to help. 2. IMHO, you should always try to gain muscle mass while on a fat loss. This will insure that you will not lose too much muscle while on a low calorie diet. 3. Biceps and triceps do not make you a better football player. Legs, hips, and back do. Having said that, this is what I would do: Eat about 12 calories per pound of body weight, with roughly 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight. For the sake of comparison, you probably are getting less than 100 grams, as per your diet description. You can keep the running, but I would stop training biceps and triceps. I would really concentrate on these exercises: Squats, leg presses (but not too much, since you are running a lot), deadlifts, power cleans, bench presses, military presses, chins and rows. Also, don't obsess about eliminating fat from your diet. If you really pay attention to your diet, you'll see that fat can actually be a pretty cool thing. Going by the numbers you posted, this is what I would eat: ~2500 calories ~200 grams of protein (800 calories) ~55 grams of fat (500 calories) ~320 grams of carbohydrates (1200 calories) I found out the hard way that diet is the biggest difference maker, redarless of what your goals are. good luck. IP: Logged |
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