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fsveloz
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 41)
posted April 17, 2000 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fsveloz   Click Here to Email fsveloz     Edit/Delete Message
Ive been training seriously for 3 months now. I seen a lot if gains in weight loss but little if any in mass. I dont know if its the way Im training but Im getting desperate.. Im willing to take any supplement. I take creatine now and train 3 to 4 times a week. Any advice in diet, training and suplementation. Im 5'9 and wiegh 172lbs and Im 24 years old. Please help

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adawg78
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 17, 2000 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adawg78   Click Here to Email adawg78     Edit/Delete Message
are you trying to lose weight or gain mass? you have to do one or the other...from your post it seems as though you've been losing weight. what kind of training do you do (training split, exercises, sets-reps), and how much do you eat a day? i think if you give a little bit more info we can help you.

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fsveloz
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 18, 2000 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fsveloz   Click Here to Email fsveloz     Edit/Delete Message
well i eat 5-6 times a day. i drink myplex twice a day. I train 3-4 times a week and in between each workout day I do cardio. Im tryin to gain mass but it seems like Im loosing weight instead.

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adawg78
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 18, 2000 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adawg78   Click Here to Email adawg78     Edit/Delete Message
first, you may be doing too much cardio. if you want to put on mass, i wouldn't do more than a total of 90 minutes/week (just to stay in shape as far as cardio goes), and less than that if you have a high metabolism (which seems like it may be the case).

second, as far as nutrition goes, you need to be taking in at least 175 grams of protein each day, split evenly throughout each of your meals. the meal replacements help with this, but it would be benificial to get your hands on some protein powder to help get in any more that you need. also, make sure you are eating enough calories. you say you're eating 5 or so times a day, but how big are those meals? you need to have a good balance of protein, complex carbs, and fat in each one. as long as you take in more calories than you expend, you will put on mass. that's what it comes down to. try keeping a log of what you eat for a week and you may be surprised and how little it really is.

now as far as training goes, you said 3-4 times a week, so i assume you have the time to train each bodypart once a week. come up with a good training split and stick to it. use heavy, basic movements like bench press, squat, barbell rows, etc. to help build mass. i would recommend 3 exercises per bodypart, with 3-4 sets for each exercise. mix up the rep scheme between exercises for each bodypart. most importantly, listen to your body and if you are still losing weight than you may be overtraining.

finally, for supplementation, creatine will (should) defintely help you put on some mass, as well as any mrp's (which should give you the vitamins and glutamine you need). hopefully this will help, so let's hear how it goes. i'll say it again...make sure you take in more calories than you burn. good luck!!

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champion
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 19, 2000 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for champion   Click Here to Email champion     Edit/Delete Message
Don't worry about it , train for a couple years seriously and you will see results. 3 months is not that long.
EAT, EAT, EAT!!!

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Suffering is virtue. Progress is pain.
Anything less than a stoic lust for this philosophy will leave you short of your ultimate potential.

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StevieD
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posted April 19, 2000 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StevieD     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Champion - EAT EAT EAT EAT. If you want to put on real mass get hold of a weight gainer.

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mossberg
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 20, 2000 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mossberg   Click Here to Email mossberg     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 73892752
Go to your local "wharehouse store", buy the chili that comes in a can, and eat 1 can at least 4 times a day. That should add some mass.

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somec-
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 21, 2000 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somec-   Click Here to Email somec-     Edit/Delete Message
And if you do decide to go on the "chili diet" don't forget to swing by the toilet paper aisle to pick up plenty of 12-packs of nice soft TP and some air freshener. And I thought my high-protein diet made me flatulent :-)

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MaxMuscle
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 22, 2000 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MaxMuscle   Click Here to Email MaxMuscle     Edit/Delete Message
If you want to build mass you need to increase your carb and protein intake. Carbs and protein are very important for building muscle mass. Another important key to growth is your calorie intake. When I train for mass I take in between 3,500-4,000 calories a day. Eat 6-7 meals per day. For training, I would stick with multi joint movements, stay away from isolation movements. Isolation movements are better for definition. You won't build much mass by doing dumbbell flyes. Stick with bench presses, rows, deadlifts, squats. I also recommend taking a MRP or a high protein supplement. I use Muscle Link's Muscle Meals and Pro Fusion. I take 3 servings daily and each serving has 40 grams of protein and 10 grams of glutamine peptide. I hope this helps.

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tom659
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posted May 29, 2000 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tom659     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP

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Rexie317
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posted May 29, 2000 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rexie317   Click Here to Email Rexie317     Edit/Delete Message
If you take weight gainer and build some mass then you stop taking it will ur mass eventually fade away b/c you stopped using the weight gain? I'm pretty new to lifting and was thinking about getting some weight gainer if the mass won't go away after I stop using the stuff.

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tom659
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posted May 31, 2000 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tom659     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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tom659
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posted June 14, 2000 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tom659     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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moe dank
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posted June 14, 2000 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moe dank   Click Here to Email moe dank     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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HashMo
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HashMo   Click Here to Email HashMo     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 19227399
well this is what i think about the weight gainer question. your taking the weight gainer to get in more calories above your maintenace. this, together with training and rest will increase your muscle mass (and a bit of fat aswell i should think) and your weight will increase. if you stop taking the weight gainer after you have put on the mass and go back to the diet like before you put on the mass, then you will lose wieght. this is because by gaining the mass whilst on the weight gainer, your maintenance level of calories would have gone up (18-25 calories per pound or sometihng like that)...thus if you stop the weight gainer your diet must have suficient calories to support your new higher wieght.

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tom659
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posted June 17, 2000 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tom659     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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RicoNY
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posted June 18, 2000 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RicoNY   Click Here to Email RicoNY     Edit/Delete Message
What does it eman when someone types "BUMP" after a message?

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MrMuscle
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 18, 2000 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrMuscle   Click Here to Email MrMuscle     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70512967
that just means that they want to "bump" it to the top so that more people see the post.

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