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Jswim

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posted February 14, 2001 07:15 PM

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Hey Guys I need Help with Training Split!!
Either 3 or 4 days a week.
I want to stick to compound excersizes to build Size and Strength(I am an NCAA swimmer): Squats, Cleans, Push-Press, Bench, etc.
Thanks for your help guys, all input is going into the strength program at LSU athletics!! Any of you guys In Baton Rouge want to see our 4 million dollar weightlifting complex let me know!!
Thanks,
JLM


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Warik

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posted February 14, 2001 08:24 PM

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Monday - Legs

Wednesday - Pushing muscles (chest, tris, shoulders)

Friday - Pulling muscles (back, biceps, traps)

Hasn't failed me since March of 2000.

-Warik

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Steelheart

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posted February 14, 2001 08:45 PM

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Do what I do....


Monday
Legs, chest delts, back (Compound+ contraction)

Wednesday
Arms, abs, calves (Compound, stretch + contraction supersets)

Friday
Legs, chest, delts, back (Stretch + Compound Superset)

Im dieting right now. Using this program helped me go from 226lbs at 19% to 210 at 9%

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latona

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posted February 14, 2001 09:14 PM

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warik and steelheart - that's a lot to do on any single day. How long do your workouts usually take?


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Warik

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posted February 14, 2001 09:19 PM

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For me, Monday is 1 hr 15 min, Wednesday is 45 min, and Friday is 1 hr 15 min. Monday & Friday would only be 1 hr if I didn't include 15 min of grip strengthening work at the end.

-Warik

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Steelheart

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posted February 14, 2001 09:22 PM

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45 min.


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Steelheart

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posted February 14, 2001 09:27 PM

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Warik has a great split! Its the only I have done 95% of the time. But now Im exploring differents splits and found this to be the best so far.

I like the way legs are worked in with my upper body, cause I dont really like to train legs anymore, and just the fact of knowing chest is next is an encouragment. Also I love the full body pumps I get!

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Warik

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posted February 14, 2001 09:30 PM

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Steel,

You don't like to train legs anymore...? Blasphemy!!!

I love training legs. Believe it or not, but chest/shoulder/tri day is my least favorite of them all. Lying down on some bench... yawn, boring... makes me wanna take a nap during my set.

back/bi/trap day is the best, though. Nothing like a good couple sets of deadlifts to remind you how tough of a guy you are.

-Warik

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Steelheart

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posted February 14, 2001 09:33 PM

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Love Deadlifts.... I used to love squats but since turning 25 I dont.

I still do them though.

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latona

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posted February 14, 2001 09:36 PM

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wow. you guys are quick! It takes me about 45 min - 1 hr just to train chest. It's not that I'm slow, but I usually spend 10-15 minutes stretching before I start training and then 20 min. doing cardio after.

My split looks like this:
Mon chest
Tues back
Wed OFF
Thurs shoulders
Fri arms
Sat legs
Sun OFF


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Steelheart

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posted February 14, 2001 09:51 PM

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You may be doing too much work for each bodypart.


Warik- Dont get me wrong dude, I still train legs....


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Warik

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posted February 14, 2001 10:06 PM

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I'm sure you do, Steel. I hate training chest and the other push muscles, but I still have to do it. The necessary evils... sigh. =)

-Warik

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Sniperwolf

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posted February 14, 2001 10:46 PM

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My two favorite splits are:

One bodypart per week
Tuesday
Back,abs
Thursday
Chest, triceps
Saturday
Biceps, shoulders
Sunday
Legs, abs

Two bodyparts per week
Tuesday
Chest, shoulders, triceps
Thursday
Back, biceps,abs
Saturday
Legs, abs
Sunday
repeat from Tuesday

This workout is one I got from Bill Phillips which I used for year and got good results.
Monday
Chest, shoulders, triceps, abs
Tuesday
Back, biceps, calves
Wednesday
Legs
Thursday
Chest, shoulders, calves, abs
Friday
Back, biceps, calves
Sat, Sun
off

Each workout is about forty five minutes to one hour long excluding warmups.


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punch

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posted February 15, 2001 10:00 AM

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One major body part per day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why, well its simple. If you train with super intensity, by this I mean training each body part until you completely wear the muscle down, you CAN NOT train the second body part with the same attention if you work two major bodyparts one after another.

Additionally, training pushing movements and pulling movements together is too much. After training back your biceps are recruiting only a portion of their strength because of fatigue from the back work. Same goes for tris after chest. If you can not dedicate a day for bis/tris I suggest back w/tris and shoulders w/bis. Remember also, that working out is as much psychological as it is physical. If you have a kick ass grueling back workout, it will be hard to focus on bis, in fact the fact that you have another bodypart to do after back can be distracting. My split is:

Mon: shoulders/bis/abs,calves
Tues: off
wed: Back/ tris/ forearms
thur: off
fri: legs/abs/calves
sat: chest/forearms
sun: off
I train shoulders first in the week so it is in good shape for chest on sat. This ahs worked for me. Just my 2 cents. LOL


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schlong

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posted February 15, 2001 12:31 PM

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monday chest/shoulders/abs

weds back/tris

friday legs/bis

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Shawn

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posted February 16, 2001 02:21 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by punch:
One major body part per day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the problem with training one body part per day is that you leave your nervous system with absolutely no rest at all during that week. so lets say you have a nice mon-fri schedule, well, 5 days blitz in a row might be too hard for some.


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HamHock

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posted February 16, 2001 03:01 AM

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What Punch said about 1 Major Bodypart per day, is IMO, right on the money. It is not just a focus issue but a Biochemical issue. After about 40 or so minutes into your workout (provided your workouts are intensive and involve muscle overload) your glycogen stores become depleted and your cortisol levels begin to rise, which is a muscle wasting activity. Beyond 45 mins or so workouts can actually become counterproductive (also a reason not to do cardio after weight training). It is difficult to sufficiently overload 2 major bodyparts, when you add in proper warm up sets and adequate recovery time in less than 45 minutes. (My leg workout alone is tough to finish in 45 minutes) In fact, 5 days a week, 1 major bodypart per day, Mon-Fri. is a great way to workout. It one of the preferred methods of the Max-OT program, which in my opinion is one of the top bodybuilding training programs.


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