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showtime2000

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From:the armpit of florida
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posted January 31, 2001 01:51 AM

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I don't know what i'm doing wrong. i'm only getting a pump in the middle of my back. not in my lats. I'm doing close grip pull downs, t-bar rows, bent over rows, seated rows. and wide grip chins. can you guys help me please. thanks

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NeckCrank

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posted January 31, 2001 02:54 AM

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I'm with you!! It sucks. I do all the tips, follow all the recommendations...
I am doing 3 sets of 12 reps on wide grip pull ups. I am gonna start using extra weight but its tough to get my lats to grow!!


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S O B

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posted January 31, 2001 04:37 AM

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Try this

you know how to do seated flies for rear delts?

Eg. D/B hold under the legs starting position do the normal fly movement but take your arms further back, try it works well.

Cheers


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FatRat

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posted January 31, 2001 08:27 AM

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Try doing a kind of pullover movement on a lat pull down machine. Stand facing it, place your hands on the bar, about shoulder width apart, and whilst keeping your arms locked straight, pull the bar down to your waist, concentrating on using your lats. This movement takes a bit of time to learn, but is a great isolator.

Also, practise flexing your lats in the mirror to work on the mind-muscle link.

FatRat


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Raphaelite

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posted January 31, 2001 08:34 AM

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pull with your elbows, not with your biceps, in conjunction with mind miscle connection.


peace


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punch

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posted January 31, 2001 09:36 AM

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I have a very wide back! About 3 years ago I started doing wieghted pullups NOT CHINUPS! I waited until I was able to do at least 12-15 reps w/ my bodywieght before adding additional wieght. Currently I wiegh 192lb. I do my bodywieght plus 25lbs for 10reps, bodwieght plus 35lb for 6reps. I promise you that this will fry your outer lats. I am so sore from this it hurts when I grab my lats. LOL


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Valdez

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posted January 31, 2001 01:51 PM

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As Fat-Rat suggested do a pullover movement first (even before pullups) 3 sets (you can do them as he suggested or on a cable tricep ext pulley, kneel down and do the motion with a straight handle)

Then as Punch suggested pull-ups, add weight if you can. superset rows with pullups (or pulldowns, preferebly pullups) if you are strong enough.

traps are very important for a huge back, heavy shrugs are going to be a key movement also.

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strengthmonster

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posted February 05, 2001 07:55 AM

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Wide grip chins should be your best movement. Trimming your waist will also add to the v shape and make your back look wider.


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b fold the truth

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posted February 05, 2001 12:17 PM

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Focus on 3 main things for lat development and growth.

1)Chins
I weigh close to 300lbs and can only do from 6-10...but I do them hard. I also use a 2" bar do do them on too...just my preference.

2) Reverse Grip barbell Rows
Don't go too heavy. 8-10 reps. Pull it to your belly button or lower. Focus on pulling with your pinky finger the most, this will take the pull off your forearms and arms and onto your lats. Full stretch.

3) Flex!!!
Flex your lats after every set. Flex them hard. Stand in the mirror and give a full lat spread and believe that you are looking in the mirror and are seeing your face on dorian's body. Hold the flex for 10 sec between sets and a full minute after you finish all your chins. Flex them again for several sets of one minute when you are finished with your back training. Try flexing them in different positions. Rear doubble bi's shot, tric shot with lat flexed. Just flex the heck out of them.

Learn how to control the muscles when you flex them. As you learn how to manipulate your lat muscles...you will see them grow. You will be able to focus on them when you are doing other back movements too.

Flex to grow.

B True


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The_CR0W

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posted February 06, 2001 09:31 PM

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CLose grip, wide grip, reverse grip
SUPERMAN(chin-ups) should be your best bet to get the full lat sweep (upper and lower)
I know chin-ups are difficult but they work your lats alot better than pulldowns.
So try to do as many as you can, then take a break and repeat until you reach like 30 or so. DO that for a couple of sets.

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Lift Or Die

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posted February 06, 2001 10:33 PM

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How long have you been training? I remember when I first started weight training I could never get a pump or much soreness in my lats. After about a year of hitting them hard they started to develop and I could finally feel them. I'm not sure if this applies to everybody but I think you have to have a certain amount of muscle development before you can feel it working. I had the same problem with delts and could never feel them working. Now that they've grown in size I get a great pump in them and can really feel them working.


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px1138

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posted February 08, 2001 06:16 PM

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i had this same problem for several years,,,, you have to develop a feel for it. best way would be with pullovers.
if you have a pullover or high-row machine at your gym, do a superset of that with rows and/or lat pulldowns of your choice. that will work definitly,,, if no pullover machine, try the dumbell movement with it, its tough to master,, but with effort it can be done.


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Hugh Gellatts

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posted February 11, 2001 07:43 PM

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I've gotten good results splitting my back workout. In one I do all pullup/chinning movement (pullovers too). On the other back day I do my rowing and rear delt movements.


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MP5

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posted February 12, 2001 06:18 PM

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try pull-downs with the supinated grip bar (handles facing each other, about 6 inches apart) and squeeze at the bottom.

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