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storebought

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posted January 26, 2001 03:34 PM

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I'm in the building trades and my job demands a lot of heavy labor eight hours a day, five days a week. In the summer its even worse, as I do side work in the evenings and on weekends. I know from your posts that alot of you guys dont believe in overtraining, how would you adjust your training if you were in this situation. I am currently doing the Body For Life training program as it is only 3 days per week of intense lifting. Cardio? My metabolism is medium to somewhat slow I'd say. Your input would be greatly appriciated.

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GenetiKing

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posted January 26, 2001 05:29 PM

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Overtraining is always possible, I just don't believe it is as easy to overtrain as a lot of people think. The human body is amazingly adaptive, especially when provided the right nutrition and rest. In your case, I would suggest lots of high quality protein and nutrient dense foods. If you get 8 to 9 hours of sleep a night and eat right, you won't overtrain, especially since your meatabolism is somewhat slow. Since your job is very physically demanding, along with your workout schedule, I would try to stay away from cardio. If you start looking soft like you're losing defintion, I would try to clean up my diet before I started doing cardio. Save what energy you have for the weight training.

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Robert W Greene

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posted January 27, 2001 08:04 AM

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I wholeheartedly agree with Genitic King,Plenty of protein and sleep is the best thing to avoid overtraing, i work a demanding physical job as well,i train 3day's a week,some time 4.


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b fold the truth

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posted January 27, 2001 11:43 AM

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My opinion is different. Lift 2x per week. Eat a lot, sleep a lot, and relax. When you have that down...move to 3x a week again.

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bleedo

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posted January 27, 2001 05:00 PM

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I know exactly what you mean-I also have a very physical job.You have to adapt your workout around your job.Although it sucks-sometimes you have to give on your workout because you can't on your job.Twice a week is all I can do with any intensity.Upping my protein and adding glutamine has also helped.And another thing-this don't wear gloves,don't wear a belt blahblahblah might be right for students and people that sit on they're ass all day.On my job I've seen carpel tunnel,blown rotators,and bad backs.Adapt and do what you
have to do to protect your body.I tape my wrists,wear gloves,and a belt-this way I can
make a good living and enjoy both worlds.


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Hot Bod

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posted January 27, 2001 07:16 PM

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Unfortunately, for you the Body for Life program requires you to do 3 days of cardio interval training for 20 minutes. This will probably speed up your metabolism, and help you cut some fat. The nutrition portion of that program will also help you to get a better metabolism, 6 small meals a day. I know when I did it, my metabolism skyrocketed.

It probably wouldn't hurt to try it but, as the previous poster's stated, be sure to get enough high quality protein in your day, and get enough sleep.

How long have you been training, are you a newcomer? Do you have a lot of fat to lose? These questions need to be addressed before we can help you decide what's good for you.

If you haven't been training long, that program will help you get regimented in your training. I'm going to assume you haven't, but correct me if I'm wrong.

If you've been training for a while, (at least a year or more) you may be able to have more specific goals in your training. Like are your cutting or bulking? When you address these things first, it's easier to get on a program that will work for you.

Just a suggestion. When you ask about an overall training question, try to provide answers to these question right up front. Age, height, weight, and body fat, and how long you've been training. You'll get an abundance of responses by being informative.


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b fold the truth

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posted January 27, 2001 09:16 PM

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Hot Bod...do not take offense...this is just my opinoin. I hate it when people say that "Body of Life requires you to..., or this workout says that I have to..." That is total horse crap!!! Have you gained all that much from it? Have you become a monster from it? Do you know anyone that now dedicates their life to it? Of course not. Do what you require. Listen to your body only!!! Do what has worked for millions of hard workers for years and years and years.

Just my opinion man...seriously...no offense .

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storebought

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posted January 28, 2001 03:57 AM

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This is good stuff. You guys really seem to know your shit when it comes to training. Actually I've been weight training for about seven years off and on. Just when I start doing really well and seeing some solid gains, I back out on myself, and stop training for a while, I have not made any significant gains overall in the last several years. I am 27, 5 foot 9, 212 pounds, at last boby comp a month ago I was around 17% bf. I have very good muscle density, but am very smooth. I seem to have a real problem with staying motivated and sticking to a regular schedule. The body for life program appaeled to me mostly because it got me excited and I thought maybe I would stick with it better than in the past, which I have. This site, and you fellow lifters have really inspired me, and I think that I am ready to kick some serious ass. If any of you guys can think of a more productive trainng split that you have had good results with, taking my job situation into account, by all means let me know. I am very open minded at this point. I,ve been promising myself every summer since I was 20 years old that I would get a visible six pack, and have never made good on that promise to date. So fuck this, Im ready to do whatever it takes this year, cause it sure as hell aint going to get any esier as I get older. I look forward to any words of advice my felllow iron warriors can provide. Thanks a million for all the help so far.

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