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sxjunky

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From:red light district
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posted January 16, 2001 07:17 PM

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ok, here's a question I've had for a long time. I'm not sure if it's a stupid one but here goes. Let's say I'm looking at Flex or M+F magazine. And they're posting some guys workout routine. Here's an example

barbell incline bench 3x8
dumbell flat bench 3x8
incline fly 3x8

My question here is this: for each excercise, is he going to failure on each set? Or is the last set of each excercise the one where he goes to failure. Depending on how you answer there are going to be more questions I have:

How can you maintain the same weight for 3 sets going to failure? lets say I can do 225 for 8 reps max on incline. there's no way I'll be able to do 8 reps of 225 for 3 set? Can I? And won't I be dead before I finish the routine?

if you're going to failure on the last set of each movement, what's the purpose of sets 1 and 2? Are those sets merely for preparing your muscle/nervous system for the 3rd set?
I'd appreciate any help on this matter. Let me know if I'm being unclear. Thanks


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sxjunky

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posted January 16, 2001 10:04 PM

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Steelheart

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posted January 16, 2001 10:19 PM

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Good question.

I believe in 1 set to failure with 2 warmups on the first exercise only. Dont forget, most guys in Flex are juiced up.

I hope this sort of helps....

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b fold the truth

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posted January 17, 2001 01:34 AM

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Juice or no juice...it is impossible to do this type of routine and really be killing yourself.

I usually do 3-4 warmup sets on major body party/core exercises. From there I pick a plan. It consists of going very hard and heavy. I like reps lower than 6 in a set.

Just train hard and heavy...and I would only suggest doing forced reps once a workout. I workout in a power rack, at home, without a workout partner. I do no forced reps. If I fail to get a rep...I fight it all the way back down to the safety pins.

I have seen more growth this way than any other.

Email if you have any other questions man...hope I can help.

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sxjunky

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posted January 17, 2001 05:51 PM

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thanks bros, I really appreciate the input.

Anyone else?


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GenetiKing

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posted January 17, 2001 06:49 PM

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I never listen to those guys posted routines, for more than reason. First of all, they've got more juice in their system than I ever will. Secondly, all those guys are genetic freaks who can basically lift paper clips and get big. For example, would you listen to what Ernie Taylor has to say about training triceps or someone who actually had to bust their ass to develop great triceps regardless of genetic disposition? Thirdly, those guys aren't even doing the programs they've set forth in that magazine anyway. It's all just packaged together nicely so it sounds good and sells copies.

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Sniperwolf

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posted January 17, 2001 08:28 PM

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When I do 3 sets of 8 reps the 8 reps is often a target as I can't usually complete them all. I may get 8 reps for the first set 7 for the next and 5 for the last. Usually if I do it for a few weeks I will get all three sets of 8 on the same weight at which point I will move the weight up and start the process over again until I reach the target. When the weight gets extremely high though I will change to three sets of 6 reps because at 8 reps it may take too long to accomplish. If I stop making progress on a week to week basis I will stop that exercise and do something else.


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strengthmonster

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posted January 18, 2001 07:08 AM

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I try to go to failure on all working sets (usually 2-3) with a set or two of warmup. As the muscle warms up it can sometimes work more efficiently due to extra blood circulating at the site.


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