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Kaisersosay

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From:nj,middlesex
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posted September 26, 2000 12:09 AM

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HEY GUYS I JUST WANNA START DOING THE BASICS BP,DEADS,SQUATS,SOME STRAIGHT BB CURLS,T-ROWS,YOU KNOW JUST THE BASIC MOVEMENTS TO PUT ON MASS.I USED TO DO ALOT OF ISOLATION MOVEMENTS BUT JUST WANNA START GAINING SIZE.I DON'T WANNA OVERTRAIN.BUT WOULD LIKE TO GET TO THE GYM 3-5 DAYS A WEEK.BTW I'M ONLY LIKE 180-185LBS 6 FT.I'M GONNA CHANGE MY DIET AROUND TO GET AT LEAST 4000-5000 CALS.AT LEAST 300-400GRAMS OF PROTEIN.I'M NOT TO CONCERNED ABOUT FAT RIGHT NOW.ANY SUGGESTIONS OR RESULTS FROM LIFTING THIS WAY.THANKS.


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Valdez

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posted September 26, 2000 12:19 AM

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You don't need 300-400 grams of protein!!!
trust me. take 100-200g of protein. the only reason you would ever eat that much is if you weighed 400lbs or if you were a BB using AS AND on a ketogenic diet.

Eat 40% protein 30% fat 30% carbs

anyway... TRAINING.

An easy mass building split would be to do

all pulling muscles day 1
take a day off
all pushing muscles day 2

OR

Back, Biceps, Traps
off
Chest, shoulders
off
Legs (Deadlifts on back day IMO)

as far as the exercises?? basic is as basic does: building mass.

Reply again if your looking for a routine.


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Kaisersosay

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posted September 26, 2000 12:28 AM

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THANKS,YEAH I THINK YOUR RIGHT ABOUT THE PROTEIN,YOUR BODY CAN'T DIGEST THAT MUCH ANYWAY RIGHT?I WOULD REALL Y LIKE A ROUNTINE.THANKS.I'M LEAVING WORK NOW,SO I'LL CHECK IT OUT TOMORROW,THANKS AGAIN.


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Genetic

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posted September 26, 2000 09:33 AM

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Quite demanding are we? Want someone to write a routine for you? Most trainers charge for this! However, I'll write you an abbreviated routine for mass.

First, prioritize your goals. Does your upper body need more work than your lower body? Vice versa? I really need more details if I was going to write a program for you. However, here's a simple split for someone not looking to put on a lot of lower body mass.

Monday: Chest and Back
Tuesday: Legs
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Delts, Biceps, Triceps, Forearms
Friday: Abs and Calves
Weekends: Off

For someone who wants to bring up legs that are lagging, something like this might be better:

Monday: Quad Dominant Movements (Squat)
Tuesday: Chest and Back
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Hip Dominant Movements (Deadlift)
Friday: Delts, Bis, Tris, and Forearms
Weekends: Off

You could throw abs and calves in whenever you would like.

As far as actually designing a program listing each exercise, tempo, schedule with periodization, that would take me a while to gauge an effective one based on consulting with you. Obviously, you want to stick with compound movements. For Chest, Bench Press and its variations (incline, decline, db). For back, still with pull-ups and rows. For Bis, stick with standing barbell curls, hammer curls, reverse curls (there are a million variations. For Triceps, stick with dips and close grip bench presses. For Quads, stick with the squat and maybe throw in some leg presses. For hams, deadlifts and stiff legged deadlifts, maybe leg curls. For Delts, stick with pressing movements too to add mass.

Genetic


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Kaisersosay

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posted September 26, 2000 02:36 PM

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Thanks for the reply,thats all i was looking for,I was not expecting you to write a routine.


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HIT Bodybuilder

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From:USA
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posted September 26, 2000 06:51 PM

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Wow, I see a lot of the conventional training methods. Well, what else is new? If you want to gain good amounts of mass and avoid overtraining, I recommend that you look into High Intensity Training. You can get some good information and routines at www.cyberpump.com Good luck.

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Train Intensely, Infrequently and Briefly

-HB-


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Genetic

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posted September 26, 2000 07:48 PM

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Ummm, the man asked for a routine regarding the basic lifts and I gave it to him. However, last time I check, HIT included the basic lifts. However, regarding HIT, most people (except for the notorious Mike Mentzer) will agree that one set for each bodypart isn't enought to thoroughly exhaust all the fibers of the muscle.

If you are going to say, but Dorian did and look at him. Did you ever see an actualy Dorian Yates workout sheet? Well, he does a bunch of warm-up sheets for each exercise pyramiding up in weight. For incline bench presses, he would do 4 sets. One sheet in particular details 135, 220, 310, 425 weights in each set respectively. It's only a technicality however, that the first three are called warm-up sets.

HIT, i believe, reminds me of Joe Weider. They basically copy things and smack it in their philosophy like they invented it. For example, Weider labels just listening to your body as "Weider Instinctive Training Principle." HIT takes stuff like "Training with proper form" and "use full range of motion" and "work to concentric failure". Most people just do this stuff anyway, but HIT decided to slap it as its own.

One other thing: HIT doesn't advocating a split routine. Personally, I don't know of any bodybuilder that doesn't use a split nowadays, or even in the earlier times of bodybuilding (except for the crazy Mentzers).

Genetic


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Rex37

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From:Philly, PA, USA
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posted September 26, 2000 09:53 PM

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My old coach gave me this routine he got from somewhere. Probablythe same place he bought the knife to stab me in the back. Anyways heres what he gave me before the knife was implanted between my shoulder blades.

Monday (Heavy)
-Squats
5 sets 5-8 reps
1 set 8 reps
-Deadlifts
5 sets 8 reps
-Bench Press
3 sets 5-8 reps
2 sets 1-3 reps
1 set 20 reps

Tuesday (Light)
-Overhead Press
5 sets 3-8 reps
-SS - 5 sets
Machine Row 8 reps
Shoulder Dips 10 reps
-SS - 4 sets x 10 reps
Preacher Curls
Tricep Pushdowns
-Abs - 3 sets x 15-20 reps
Hanging leg raise
Side Bends
-Neck (fwd/back)
2 sets x 10 reps (on the 4 way neck machine)

Wednesday (Off or Cardio)

Thursday (Light)
-Incline Bench Press
5 sets 5-8 reps
-SS - 5 sets
-Leg Press - 10 reps
-Leg Press Calve - 20 reps
-SS - 4 sets x 8 reps
-Leg Curls
-Leg Ext.
-Chin ups
4 sets rep-out
-Abs - 3 sets x 15-20 reps
Knee Twist
Crunch

Friday (Medium)
-Squats
3 sets 5-8 reps
2 sets 3 reps
1 set 10 reps
-Shrugs
5 sets 8 reps
-SS - 5 sets x 8 reps
Close grip bench
Curls
-SS - 2 sets x 20
Dumb bell curls
Skull crushers
-Neck (side/side)
2 sets x 10 reps (on a 4 way neck machine)


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