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Stephen May

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From:Ft. Worth, Texas
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posted September 18, 2000 12:24 AM

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I am desperately wanting to start bodybuilding. I have moved to Ft. Worth Texas, and now have access to a gym and want to pursue bb. I am concerned first due to I am at an old age of 30 and second I dont know where to begin, I bought the books and magazines but I am overwhelmed with all the info. Can anyone help.


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BigGerry

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posted September 18, 2000 07:50 AM

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Welcome aboard stephen!good luck in your new persuit, i'm sure once you start you'll get hooked like the rest of us.I've a few tips to pass on,which unfortunately were not given to me when i started.First off, you will make some fantastic gains a beginer, before your body begins to adopt to the bb lifestyle.You want to maximise these gains, which will taper as time goes on.The way to do this is to provide the ideal enviroment for growth.Sleep 8 hours a night,train hard and briefly no more than 3 days a week,and eat right(a protein drink is a good way to supplement your diet)cut out the crap.Stick to the basic movements, the big excersises and don't bother with "shaping" movements.
Don't worry about splitting your body parts up into different days,just do a basic all over body routine mon,wen.fri. Use 2 warm ups and two working sets,until youre gains slow down.
The big excersises are squat,deadlift,bench press,chin and row.Add some ab work and your good to go.Don't worry about, flies, curls, laterals and all the fancy machines you see around.Stick to these excersises, learn how to perform them correctly, and then work at getting strong.You'll be stiff and sore for a while, your appitite should increase and you'll sleep like a baby.Best of luck, and stick with it.

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"I'd eat a kilo of shit if i thought it would give me bigger muscles"-Arnold


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cabexbx

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posted September 18, 2000 10:24 AM

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You're never too old to begin lifting weights. You'll make some great gains no matter when you start. Just be smart about it. I'm not sure which books or magazines you're reading, but you need to be careful reading most of the mainstream bodybuilding magazines. You'll waste a lot of time and effort if you follow the routines outlined by the pros. If you haven't looked into it yet I'd suggest Brawn or Beyond Brawn by Stuart McRoberts. There are also plenty of websites with useful information. I'd stick to "hardgainer" type sites. They are generally more useful for normal lifters. Stick with big, basic, compound movements. Get plenty of rest, don't overtrain and you will grow. Read the post "Take note, Getting Big is Simple".
Good Luck!


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Large & In Charge

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posted September 18, 2000 10:53 PM

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Hey Stephen

Welcome to the forum and I want to congradulat you for wanting to start bodybuilding. I to am 30 and I feel stronger than ever! I have 16 years of experiance behind me and I'm looking foreward to the next 16!

I agree with most of what the other guys have already said. But as great as those exercises are, you need to work on the major muscles more independently. I like compound movements, they are simple and work a variety of muscle groups at the same time. But because they do, they only hit the muscles indirectly. You need to work a muscle more directly in order to get the maximum gains out of that muscle. Do a total-body wokout 3 days a week, work all the major muscles, and stick with the basic lifts. Here are the muscles and the lifts you need to do:

Chest---bench press (barbell)
Back---bent-over row (barbell)
Shoulders---military press (barbell)
Triceps---tricep pushdowns (straight bar)
Biceps---curls (barbell)
Quads---squats (barbell)
Calves---standing calf machine
Abs---crunches

Now there are some people in here that may say that this is too much or not enough. But every person I have trained, I have started them out this way and they have made some fantastic gains!

If you would like anymore help, need advise, or have any concerns, drop me an e-mail and I'll hook you up!

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Use the SHIP principle when training

Train........................(S)mart
Train........................(H)ard
Train with..................(I)ntensity
Train with..................(P)urpose


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Valdez

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posted September 19, 2000 05:00 AM

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Don't do a total body workout...

Split into two days at least.
day 1= Legs day 2= Upper body

definetly stick to basic exercises but don't fool yourself if you think bench press is the only movement you need for a big chest... the same applies to other bodyparts, especially back.


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nobu

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posted September 19, 2000 09:15 AM

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Welcome


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HIT Bodybuilder

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posted September 19, 2000 10:20 AM

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I recommend that you start out on a full body routine. The objective of the full body routine is to precondition your muscles and tendons. It's good to start out slow. Do 3 full body sessions a week, but don't lift heavy. Use light to moderate weights. Do the full body routine for 4-8 weeks and then switch over to a more intense routine. I only train 3 times every two weeks. The method of training I use is called HIT (High Intensity Training). I do no more than 1 work set per exercise. I take each set to muscle failure. For more information on HIT check out, www.cyberpump.com And I recommend the book, Beyond Brawn. Mike Mentzer's books are also pretty good. Here's a good full body routine.

Monday/Wednesday/Friday
Squat 2 x 10-12
Stiff-Legged Deadlift 2 x 10-12
Bench Press 2 x 10-12
Pulldown 2 x 10-12
Seated Dumbbell Press 2 x 10-12
Dumbbell Upright Row 2 x 10-12
Lying Triceps Extensions 1 x 10-12
Barbell Curl 1 x 10-12
Standing Calf Raise 1 x 10-12
Crunches 1 x 15-20

I also recommend that you get McRobert's book, "The Insider's Tell-all Handbook on Weight Training Technique." 'Beyond Brawn,' and this book are probably the two most important books to read. If you don't know how to do an exercise, don't be afraid to ask someone in your gym. Be sure that they're well qualified to give good instruction. Ask a personal trainer or one of the advanced lifters. Use light weights when you perform a new exercise. It's not good to start out heavy on movement that you're not familiar with. Good luck. You can get Beyond Brawn and Insider's Tell-all Handbook on Weight Training Technique at www.hardgainer.com

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Dweezle

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posted September 20, 2000 04:29 PM

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Hi Stephen
Lots of good information given in these posts. I really agree with sticking to the basic movements. A personal trainer or advanced lifter can be of great assistance. I started lifting a year ago at the young age of 48. I'm hooked. Went from 170 lbs to 190 in 6 months. The first gains are the best. Don't forget to change up your routine every 6 to 8 weeks.
Good luck!


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