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crash71
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posted July 10, 2000 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash71   Click Here to Email crash71     Edit/Delete Message
Any body know what amounts to take of pure powder to get the sleep effect it is supposed to offer? The vet that sold it to me couldn't answer the Q because I guess that it can't be bought for human consumption. Is it illegal to posses?
Crash

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seeseerider
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posted July 11, 2000 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeseerider     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70537912
start at 500mg and see what result you get...you can up it to 2000 mg a night with no problem;-)

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havoc
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posted July 11, 2000 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
In the book Optimum Sports Nutrition it says take 5-10 grams. If you didnt know, tryptophan causes your seratonin levels to rise which releases more natural growth hormone into your system. 1000mg = 1 gram. This shit works well, it will lean you the fuck out. No its not illegal , it used to be when a bad batch killed some users about 8-9 years ago. BiosChemicals sells tryptophan in pill form, each pill is 500mg.

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d1734
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posted July 11, 2000 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for d1734   Click Here to Email d1734     Edit/Delete Message
where are you hearing that tryptophan is legal? i've been doing some research through search engines and everywhere i go they say its illegal. 5-HTP supposed to be a great alternative. is it ok to take 5-HTP and melotonin at the same time?

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havoc
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posted July 11, 2000 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
Tryptophan is legal, there is a store here in Houston that sells it , its pure L-Tryptophan. Hold on I will be right back with a website.

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biguun
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posted July 11, 2000 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for biguun   Click Here to Email biguun     Edit/Delete Message
Where do you get tryptophan and how much does it cost.
do you have to get it through a vet?

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havoc
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posted July 11, 2000 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
You impatient fuck,
go to www.biochemicals.com, you can buy all the fucking tryptophan you want but you better learn how to use it, if done right you can become lean as shit.

[This message has been edited by havoc (edited July 11, 2000).]

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Plato
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posted July 11, 2000 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plato   Click Here to Email Plato     Edit/Delete Message
I used to take this when I was younger, it rocked. Then some Japanese company put some bad product on the market, killed a few people, and they illegalized it for people. I think I'll use it again. Thnx for the link.

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tyguy
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posted July 12, 2000 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tyguy     Edit/Delete Message
For those of you who have tried L- Tryptophan, are there any side effects that occur when you are taking this product with the exception of the Japanese scare? Thanks

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Unity66
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posted July 13, 2000 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unity66   Click Here to Email Unity66     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70960516
Do a search on E2's old posts...he had a great post regarding tryptophan awhile back. According to E2, tryptophan has the ability to cause a considerable spike in gh levels. I dont remember what dosages he recommended...I think it was 5-10g at night-this is just from memory though.

Unity66

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d1734
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posted July 13, 2000 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for d1734   Click Here to Email d1734     Edit/Delete Message
i really wanna get some of this stuff but that link isn't working for me. are you sure it's right?

hope i can get it, it's fucking amazing how pathetic the FDA is for banning AN AMINO ACID!!! hahaha, thats like banning glutamine!!

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tyguy
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posted July 13, 2000 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tyguy     Edit/Delete Message
Hey D1734 looked at the other link, there is a comma at the end which screws it up, go here www.biochemicals.com .

Later

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havoc
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posted July 13, 2000 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
For everyone, tryptophan is to be taken at night on a completely empty stomach, any protein taken with tryptophan cancels the effect out. Take 5-10 grams a night on an empty stomach for 4 weeks and you will lean the fuck out(ethiopian style). This shit works. Warning it does make you tired and sluggish as hell, this is why you do not consume it during the day unless you plan to take a 3hour nap and you have an empty stomach.

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tyguy
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posted July 13, 2000 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tyguy     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Havoc- Which would you recommend the powder or the capsules. Thanks

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d1734
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posted July 13, 2000 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for d1734   Click Here to Email d1734     Edit/Delete Message
damn, 5-10g will get pretty damn expensive. is 5-HTP a good enough replacement because it is tremendously cheaper, well to take 100 mg. that may not be as good as 5-10g tryptophan though. i dunno if i can afford that much tho...oh well

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havoc
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posted July 13, 2000 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
Capsules, the dosage is guaranteed, I have used tryptophan only once for 4 weeks with capsules, it actually made me a little too lean, I was 235 around 4% with veins in my obliques and shit, I have recommended it for many people and it does work wonders, it is expensive but it is more natural than synthetic injection and basically has no side effects except some sluggishness but many get used to it.

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tyguy
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posted July 13, 2000 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tyguy     Edit/Delete Message
This shit is starting to get me excited I have worked my ass off and I can't quite get that layer to come off my abs- no matter what I have done- maybe now I will see them now. How fast to you notice more definition? Thanks for all your help and info, it is much appreciated!

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Plato
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posted July 13, 2000 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plato   Click Here to Email Plato     Edit/Delete Message
If going to go on tryptophane, do you go off thermos?? (i.e., ripped fuel, adipo, etc...)
or is it o.k. to do both??

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RaginAsian
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posted July 13, 2000 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RaginAsian   Click Here to Email RaginAsian     Edit/Delete Message
This is a fascinating thread.

havoc, you got some good results from the L-tryp, eh? How long would you suggest taking it? 4 weeks was good for you?

Yep.

Ragin Asian

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tyguy
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posted July 13, 2000 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tyguy     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Havoc- I have been doing some research on prices and want to know what you think about this site- http://indian-chemicals.com/importprices/bulkdrugs/index.htm
Maybe it will save us money!


Found another site- probably more safe http://www.hepmed.com/order.htm

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tyguy
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posted July 13, 2000 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tyguy     Edit/Delete Message
I have also done a lot of searching on what this drug has done in the past and i didn't read anything at all about how it helps you. Havoc, I am not at all calling you a liar, but why do they not list this info, or am I just totally overlooking something. Thanks

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d1734
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posted July 13, 2000 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for d1734   Click Here to Email d1734     Edit/Delete Message
tyguy: tryptophan is not a drug. it is an amino acid. big difference.

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tyguy
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posted July 13, 2000 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tyguy     Edit/Delete Message
alright- so it's an amino acid- Is it just commonly known information that elevated seratonin levels release more growth hormone?

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havoc
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posted July 13, 2000 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
Being an elite all natural athlete @ 5'10 240 6% bf and 23 years old, I have been doing research into elevating my physique to new levels naturally, in my research I have found many different and interesting things, 2 years ago I stumbled upon a book called Optimum Sports Nutrition by Michael Colgan, I recommend you buy it and treat it sort of like a Bible if you will, it contains a vast variety of info. on tryptophan and a few other aminos that help release GH, this book will help you become a better athlete and better person overall, some of his advice is priceless. For example when your done with tryptophan you can move on to plenty of other aminos cycled properly of course that will also take your physique to a new height. So go buy the book, to answer some of the previous questions no you dont have to come off a fat burner or thermo but I dont recommend that garbage anyway and 4 weeks for me was sufficient because of my Genetics but I know people who have been on for months, so everyone is a little different in that respect. Hope this helps, any other questions let me know.

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seeseerider
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posted July 14, 2000 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeseerider     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70537912
thank you tyguy!!!

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RaginAsian
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posted July 14, 2000 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RaginAsian   Click Here to Email RaginAsian     Edit/Delete Message
havoc, so how does bud fit into the picture? Being natural and such, what does this book reveal?

R.A. (tatat-tat)

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havoc
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posted July 14, 2000 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
This book mentions nothing about Ganja , but marijuana does contain 19 essential elements and hemp oil does contain one of the best ratios of poly and mono unsat fats, the book I mentioned is really informative and will help. Marijuana for me is a personal and spiritual use, one of my 3 minors in college was religion and every religion I studied had mentioned marijuana and the positive benefits gained from it. There is also over 300 medicinal uses for it. I could go on and on but theres not enough time right now.

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tyguy
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posted July 23, 2000 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tyguy     Edit/Delete Message
thought I bump it and see what happend!

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Plato
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posted July 28, 2000 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plato   Click Here to Email Plato     Edit/Delete Message
Has anyone tried this since this thread began??

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natedogg03
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posted July 30, 2000 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for natedogg03   Click Here to Email natedogg03     Edit/Delete Message
would taking it prevent me from gaining weight? I guess what i'm trying to say is can i take it while trying to bulk up?

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RaginAsian
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posted July 30, 2000 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RaginAsian   Click Here to Email RaginAsian     Edit/Delete Message
nate, I don't think it would inhibit gains from a mass cycle. If anything, you'll gain more lean mass while shedding flab.

I'm rounding up some nickels and dimes for an order, but I'm confused about where to go. This Indian place seems cheap, but I don't want to die if they're fucking around in the lab. Has anyone ordered from that Indian pharmaceuticals place?

Ragin Asian

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BigKat56
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posted August 06, 2000 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigKat56   Click Here to Email BigKat56     Edit/Delete Message
Do you need to be on any special diet or just the lower carb and fat kind? What about cardio? Do you have trouble getting up in the morning, how much sleep do you need, and are you still tired during the day? Isn't this the same stuff that makes you tired from eating a lot of turkey at Thanksgiving? (Hehe)

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NYJuicer
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posted August 08, 2000 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYJuicer   Click Here to Email NYJuicer     Edit/Delete Message
I just got my two bottles of L-Trytophan from Biochemicals yesterday. I'm gonna take 5 grams a night.. when should I start noticing a change?

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Dirk Diggler
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posted August 08, 2000 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dirk Diggler     Edit/Delete Message
how much did you get at what cost?

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riskybiz007
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posted August 08, 2000 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for riskybiz007   Click Here to Email riskybiz007     Edit/Delete Message
Biochemicals sells a 5-HTP tryptophan somethin', is that L-tryptophan? I'm wondering because that's what they sell in the stores around here, 5-HTP i forgot the whole name but trypophan is part of the name.

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NYJuicer
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posted August 09, 2000 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYJuicer   Click Here to Email NYJuicer     Edit/Delete Message
I didnt't get the 5 htp thing.. I got the actual bottles of "L-Tryptophan". I bought two bottles for $140. They each have 90grams in them... capsule form. I'm surprised I managed to get them becuase I thought that L-tryptophan was illegal.

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havoc
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posted August 09, 2000 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
NY juicer if you have any questions about usage or my cycle that I did on tryptophan just email me. No its not illegal for veteranarians that is.

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riskybiz007
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posted August 09, 2000 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for riskybiz007   Click Here to Email riskybiz007     Edit/Delete Message
so what's the deal with the 5-HTP the hydrotryptophan or whatever it's called. Is it the same shit?

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d1734
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posted August 09, 2000 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for d1734   Click Here to Email d1734     Edit/Delete Message
5-htp is hydroxytryptophan. 1 step closer to serotonin, but also has a more narrow range of effects than tryptophan.

they are diff substances.

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