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Hindustan
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 07, 2000 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hindustan   Click Here to Email Hindustan     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Lifters,

I have a question. I realize they are a bit elementry, but I just couldnt' seem to find the answers.

1) Androstendione/4 - Androdiol/5-Androdiol/(Substitute your own Legal Steroid here)?

Which one should I take to get the BEST results. I want to get BIG and RIP sh*t up in the gym.

2. How many Milligrams should I take?

3. Any fav products that you guys could recommend.


I just got my paycheck, and I am looking forward to spending it all on getting bigger. Help me make the right investments, for I dont have that much money to waste ;-)

Hindustan

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The Body Cries Stop, but the soul cries NEVER!
- Jai Hind

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Snoopdog
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 7)
posted July 08, 2000 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snoopdog     Edit/Delete Message
get some glutamine,lots of protein mix,a good multi vitamin mineral,I wouldn't waste
my money on prohormones they suck.

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mightydog
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 557)
posted July 08, 2000 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mightydog   Click Here to Email mightydog     Edit/Delete Message
All prohormones are shit, everyone will laugh about this bogus crap years from now.

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max258
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 71)
posted July 08, 2000 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for max258     Edit/Delete Message
Just stick with a good protein powder or mrp, glutamine, and creatine.

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LIFT WGHTS
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 67)
posted July 08, 2000 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LIFT WGHTS   Click Here to Email LIFT WGHTS     Edit/Delete Message
These guys are all correct. I've used most every pro-hormone out there the last few years and got nothing from them except poorer. If you want to go beyond your genetic size limitations, you know what you need to use---and its NOT andro!

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vlaovic
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 145)
posted July 11, 2000 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vlaovic   Click Here to Email vlaovic     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with all these guys about the andro shit - spend your loot on #1 protein, #2 vitamins, #3 glutamine, #4 creatine and #5 essential fatty acids. If you want a boost in GH, 2g of glutamine does it. If you want more test, get about a quarter of your daily calories from fat. Take efa's, but don't ditch saturated fat, as it causes cholosterol which is an immediate precursor to testosterone - unsaturated fat does nothing for test. Never drop fat to bellow 20% of your calories if you're after natural test.

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MUSTANG_18
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 11, 2000 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MUSTANG_18   Click Here to Email MUSTANG_18     Edit/Delete Message
ANDRO IS SHIT!!! IF YOU ARE TO YOUNG TO TRY GEAR THEN STAY WITH CREATINE AND A GOOD PROTEIN DRINK AND WHEN YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH AND HAVE REACHED YOUR NATURAL PEAK THEN IF YOU WANT YOU CAN TRY YOUR FIRST CYCLE. GOOD LUCK

M18

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Testoman
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 42)
posted July 11, 2000 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Testoman   Click Here to Email Testoman     Edit/Delete Message
Andro works if the dosage is high enough. Make sure you only use 4-Androstendiol.
I used 1500 mg 4-Androstendiol a day (3 times 500 mg per day) for 8 weeks and got good results. I will do it again.

I gained 4 lbs in body weight and lost approximately 4 pounds of fat. This equals to a gain of about 8 lbs of muscle in 8 weeks.

If you just play around with 200, 400 or 600 mg a day, you're wasting your time and money.

TestoMan

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sour jerk
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted July 13, 2000 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sour jerk   Click Here to Email sour jerk     Edit/Delete Message
you want better gains than read vlavs post he hit it on the nose for get andro,youwant a good supplement use ..
udos choice oil...creatine,glutamine,protein.
,vitamins,alpha lipoic acid is great too...

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Jay-T
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 204)
posted July 14, 2000 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-T     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71161148
I tried some andro and didnt notice shit other than some zits. I got much better results from creatine!

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4drkk78
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 39)
posted July 14, 2000 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4drkk78   Click Here to Email 4drkk78     Edit/Delete Message
I did not like the androstendion I use. It gave me no results and made me feel sick.

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sauce
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted July 14, 2000 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sauce   Click Here to Email sauce     Edit/Delete Message
ive tried andro a few times and it did nothing for me on any of those times

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Bjaarki
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted July 14, 2000 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bjaarki   Click Here to Email Bjaarki     Edit/Delete Message
Testoman is right. When the andros and norandros first started coming out, the recommended dosages were ridiculously small. Now people are beginning to understand that you need large doses of these compounds for enough to survive the metabolic passes in your stomach and liver, and to make the conversion to test or nandrolone.

I've used doses well above 1000/day, also with good results. Stick with 4androstenediol, which has by far the best conversion profile.

Bjaarki

"Become someone's hero."

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picasso666
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 26, 2000 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for picasso666   Click Here to Email picasso666     Edit/Delete Message
I've received great results with andro, while using relatively small amounts (200-400mg/per day). It's my first run with this stuff. I was very sceptical at first, but I'm very suprised and pleased with the results. I've gained about 6 pounds in the first week (most of it water, but I'm strong as fuck in the gym!). My pumps are awesome as well. I feel as if I'm on a light cycle of test.
I think most people who don't do well on it have built up too much of a tolerance by using gear. I've only done a couple very light cycles of gear, my receptors are pretty clean. I'm using the Osmo andriol and also bought some of the Gen brand. I think anyone new to the game, with some solid training under their belt should at least give this stuff a shot. laterz

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The Franchise
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted July 27, 2000 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Franchise     Edit/Delete Message
I used tons of andro and never got crap from it but maybe a little gyno!!!

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davidg
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posted July 27, 2000 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidg   Click Here to Email davidg     Edit/Delete Message
Franchise,

How do you get a little gyno. You mean like a little rock or what.

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tank
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 31, 2000 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tank   Click Here to Email tank     Edit/Delete Message
I put on about ten pounds using the nortesten,anotesten,acetabolan stack and my strength boosted very quick it just costs so much but i have read in musclemag that its more powerfull than a deca(which is'nt saying much).

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d1734
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 31, 2000 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for d1734   Click Here to Email d1734     Edit/Delete Message
d1734...you have officially been edited.

I'm tired of deleting your posts, every thing out of you is a flame. Clean it up or I'll delete you. BPP

[This message has been edited by BigPapaPump (edited August 01, 2000).]

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dahmer
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posted August 01, 2000 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dahmer   Click Here to Email dahmer     Edit/Delete Message
It's good shit! Good for getting gyno. It always converts to estrogen. Stick with the real shit. It is alot better and around the same price.

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Beezers
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted August 01, 2000 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beezers   Click Here to Email Beezers     Edit/Delete Message
Here is the only answer you need. It is a waste of your time and money. It's not worth it. Train hard, eat right and save your pennies for gear. If you're considering using pro-hormones, you might as well just consider juicing. The difference is gear works if your training and diet are right, pro-hormones don't work period.

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Dirk Diggler
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posted August 01, 2000 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dirk Diggler     Edit/Delete Message
Alright, let me add to the pile. I tried it too and it didn't do jack.

Go buy some meat with that money you were going to waste on andro.

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pump-n-iron
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posted August 03, 2000 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pump-n-iron   Click Here to Email pump-n-iron     Edit/Delete Message
Lost a bunch of hair on an andro cycle.
Norabol seemed to work a bit better
but I can't say fure sure the gains I
got were from it.

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pump-n-iron
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posted August 03, 2000 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pump-n-iron   Click Here to Email pump-n-iron     Edit/Delete Message
Lost a bunch of hair on an andro cycle.
Norabol seemed to work a bit better
but I can't say for sure the gains I
got were from it.

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