posted June 30, 2000 10:27 AM            

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I'm getting ready to take a product with this in it. Does anyone know what this is and what does it do. Any side affects?

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posted June 30, 2000 03:09 PM            

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It's Ecdysterone, a non-hormonal anabolic. I'm importing some Ekdisten in from Russia, the drug version. I'll let you know how it worked.

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posted July 06, 2000 03:46 PM            

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Any one else have any info...Please..

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posted July 14, 2000 07:08 PM         

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I've been using this for several weeks and must say that it is one of the best supplements that I've ever used. The most noticeable thing was that my recovery was a lot better and my hardness really increased. Gained a little maybe but not conclusive on this yet.

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posted July 16, 2000 07:24 PM         

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Hey Recoome, have you used the ecdisten from Russia yet? What dosage are you taking?

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posted July 23, 2000 07:06 PM         

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The studies do show some sort of anabolic activity from edysterone, and some of the other phytoecdysteroids. There are also good studies concerning these compounds effects on erythropoeisis. The increase in red blood cells may be giving the hardness effect that many are claiming.

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posted July 28, 2000 11:38 AM            

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I've heard alot about this substance but always thought it was shit. What is the diffence between the junk that was sold several years ago, the stuff by Syntrax, and the "drug" version from Russia?
Zoe labs supposedly has the "drug version"
I cant vouch for ZOE-it looks like a weird operation from the looks of their site.

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posted July 28, 2000 03:21 PM         

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The difference in the new version is simply dosage, as the old versions were only 5 mg as compared to Syntrax's 200mg product. I, and others, beleived that this compound had merit, but only if used in sufficient quantities.

As for ZOE labs, I would not trust them, since they are known for "hit or miss" type supplements.

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posted July 29, 2000 05:27 PM            

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i've spent several hours today researching this stuff. i couldn't get a whole lot of info on the actual drug version because most of the stuff on it was in russian. all the studies i could find on medline showed that it was effective. on the net i found many herbal preparations but they had squat compared to syntrax's version. most of them garanteed something like 15 mg of the main active ingredient. t-mag says there is some other ingredients in the drug version that work synergistically but the syntrax version might work based on brute force alone with its massive 200 mg capsules.

anyone got any comments on this stuff from experience?

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posted August 11, 2000 02:37 AM            

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zoes beta was great I have used stuff from www.zoelabs.com
hit and miss is right the mep,and beta
were out of this world good size and strength but the impact 250
was just like any pro hormone maybe i was suppose to inject it they said do not there would be no extra benefit
but they gave me money back so I have no
complaints

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posted August 11, 2000 04:49 PM            

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impact 250 is just for that reason thats its claim to fame you can shoot it .
and thats when it works great try drinking cypinate you wont get shit

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