posted April 26, 2000 10:33 AM         

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i usually stay in the anabolic board, but every now and then i come to this board and check things out. and it pisses me off that so many people are all about the prohormones. and whats worse is there are people who actually give advice and tell these guys that andro can work just as well as roids. i must admit, that i too bought into the prohormone hype, but only for a short time. so did my friends. we used andro, norandro, time released shit. and none of it worked. we thought it was working, but it was all in our mind. after one 6 week cycle, i realized i gained 3 pounds. and i knew that could have just been my own hard work and not the prohormone. so, i threw that shit away. the only one that i would consider using is paradeca, and thats just consider. duchaine was in on its conception before he passed on, and we all know that the guy knew a thing or two about boosting test. but when muscletech claims that htey have a stack that can duplicate a stack of roids, i just get pissed off. sure, acetabolan might help u make some gains, with the tribulus and glutamine, but there is no chance in hell that nortestin and anotestin, no matter how time released they are, are ever gonna touch real gear. please, guys. im trying to save u guys money. the prohormones are shit. most studies done with them are lopsided. hell, the one that says 337% increase in test was done on women. so, save ur money. get a good protein, glutamine, creatine, and bcaa. maybe check out the anabolic board. research a bit, and u might find that you want to try the real shit. later.

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posted April 26, 2000 09:17 PM            

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I totally support Quad. I've tried quite a few different brands/stacks and formulas. They all are just shit. No one listens, but prohormones are just giving false hope. Invest in something else...

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posted May 01, 2000 09:06 PM         

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im bumping this just cause there have been more posts on prohormones. bump

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posted May 06, 2000 06:18 PM            

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YEAH QUAD You tell em. Shoot Deca fuck prohormones, don't be a bunch of pussies

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posted May 08, 2000 03:28 PM            

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BULL ! I have tried andro-4diol twice and gained 5 lbs in 3 weeks each time. Follow the directions and you may see some better results...

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posted May 08, 2000 03:47 PM         

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beefy, smarten up. did u eat better while u were on the prohormone? have u ever heard of the placebo effect? i bet u ate much cleaner while u were on and trained a lot harder cause you wanted the shit to work. i tell you again: NO PROHORMONE WILL GIVE U EFFECTS THAT COME EVEN CLOSE TO ROIDS. but, if u feel like paying 60 bucks for some bullshit, go ahead. il use my 60 bucks to get some dbol, around 150-200 pills. but, its your money. just wipe ur ass with it before u send it in. at least then u can give the company some shit too, cause thats all there giving you.

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posted May 09, 2000 12:29 AM            

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Man, prohormones dont have shit on DECA!! Hee, hee!

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posted May 09, 2000 09:57 AM         

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Quadzilla is right one the money. In fact prohormones have a higher aromatization rate than Test does. So why would you bother spending $50+ on some cheap shit andro product when you can spend half as much and get the real thing and make twice the gains?

People who take pro-hormones and think they're hardcore are a joke too.....

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posted May 10, 2000 08:23 PM            

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BUMP

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posted May 10, 2000 10:23 PM            

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Markus Ruhl uses Stenandiol and he's "freaky."

But seriously, I thought this was the supplement board. Not the "That shit doesn't work, and why don't you try something that can land you in jail...blah, blah, blah" board. This steriod pushing post doesn't really help anyone. Oh, and 19 is too young to juice, Quads.

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posted May 11, 2000 09:54 AM         

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I think you're on the wrong site if you don't like reading about steroids....
www.bodyforlife.com might be better for you....

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posted May 11, 2000 10:41 AM            

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I partyl agree with Ragin, i have no beef with guys who do roids. but just because someone want to use the stuff the get over the counter they shouldnt get flamed. its theire choice, and i think we should try to give them the best information conserning the products the choose. not try to get em over on the illegal path, which not everyone want to walk, myself included.

just my 2 cents. no flaming intende.

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posted May 11, 2000 11:30 AM            

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No one needs to persuade anybody to do anything they don't want to. I don't think thats what anyone really intended. But no matter what anyone says, Prohormones are not good. I know this from personal experience, literature, scientific studies, word of mouth, etc. They might work at helping you grow some tits, and shrink your wallet, but thats about it. And if you do make muscular gains off of them, you probably could have done it without them. Just read around somemore and you'll find posts of people who say they are no longer naive, and they realize the truth that prohormones are shit and all it gave them was bitch tits. You have to understand that supplement companies want to make money. so they will sell anything they can legally to do it. HMB, Prohormones, numerous other supplements that are the rage for a short while are just marketing scams. And the reason why everyone is saying "don't take prohormones" is because they more than likely have been in your shoes, and bought into the market hype, and they can't stand seeing somebody pay so much money for something that is no better than cornstarch, but with more side effects.
So with all that said, do whatever the hell you want. but doesn't it make sense to listen to someone who has been in your shoes before?

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posted May 12, 2000 09:06 AM         

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I would have to agree on prohormones been pretty much a waste of money. They may help someone who has relatively low testosterone levels to begin with, but as far as most bodybuilders go, their effectiveness is very limited. I've seen a lot of people get the side effects without gaining the muscle.

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posted May 12, 2000 09:11 AM         

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I HAVE USED PROHORMONES AND I HAVE REACHED A WEIGHT NEVERE SEEN ..... I WAS ALWAYS MAXIMUNM 85 KG AND I REACHED 92 ! AND IT'S NOT ONLY DIET AND HEAVY WEIGHTS ........ SO YOU SEE , PEOPLE CAN ALSO LISTEN TO ME , OR NOT ? AND I SAY , PROHORMONES ARE NOT SHIT , IT'S A GOOD SUPPLEMENT , NOT LIKE ROIDS OF COURSE , BUT IT'S NOT BAD. IF SOME BRO DOES NOT WANT TO START ON ROIDS , THEY CAN TRY PROHORMONES. I HAD REALLY GOOD RESULTS , NOT FAT AND WATER , NO GYNO , AT ALL.

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posted May 12, 2000 10:43 AM         

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Ok, Ive been reading the board for a few weeks now and only posted a couple of times. I dont post cuz I cant add to the AS board. But, Ive gotta say the prohormones have helped. Even if its a placebo effect it works for me. I think peoples bodys react differently, and mine has reacted very well to the prohormones. I keep considering AS but I just cant get myself to do them (yet). Im afraid one day I will. But since I made good gains on 19-Nor (back in Jan and Feb) I started taking the MASS Quantities Norabol on Monday, Ive tried to take it easy so that I dont hurt myself but I just cant seem lift enough. I LOVE IT! So regardless what it is about it thats working, if it works then go for it. If someone is not ready for AS but is willing to try Prohomones, HMB, Creatine, and TONS OF PROTEIN (what Im currently using) then go for it. Im for what ever makes gets you where you want to be. I dont think anyone should knock someone if they are willing to take the first steps to reach their goals. Even if you think its BS. I know everone out there (for the most part) is only trying to help, but we also have to support those that are just coming on.

Laters

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