posted April 06, 2000 11:00 AM            

Well, I got lazy the last few years, and I am probably near 15-20% fat now (i think).

I am getting married in 4 months, and I really want to trim up. Don;t want to be fat on my honeymoon. I am getting back to the gym, and doing a regular lifting routine.

I want to lose that fat by 4 months. I am not worried about getting my size back right away, but I want the fat gone.

I am considering doing either the ECA stack, or a product I've found out about on this board - adipokinetix.

What would work best for me? What kind of diet and workout schedule, as well as when take the supplements?

posted April 06, 2000 12:31 PM            

As far as your diet, you'll want to eat 6 smaller meals per day as opposed to 3 standard meals to keep that metabolism up. I personally prefer a high protein, moderate carbs, low fat diet, but there are many theories regarding proper protein/carb/fat balance. I find that it's easy to get my 6 meals a day by consuming 3 high-protein meal replacement shakes each day as well as breakfast, lunch, dinner. Myoplex, Isopure, and the Met-RX shakes are all pretty good. Normal foods that I tend to stick with are egg whites, tuna, turkey breast (grilled and deli slices), and grilled chicken breasts. Do not skip breakfast, take a multi-vitamin every day, and add some fruits and veggies somewhere during the day and you should be all set. The diet might sound pretty boring (it actually is), but after a few months I hardly even mind it. I also have a "cheat" day on the weekend, but I've found that even my cheat meals tend to be pretty healthy since the diet changes the way I view food. Some folks like to take an alpha lipoic acid supplement with their meals to help negate excess carbs from the food.

As far as a workout, lifting and cardio will help to burn that fat away while adding some muscle. Stick with your regular lifting routine, be sure to hit all of the major muscles in your body, including legs. The muscle that you build through lifting is going to burn the calories that are normally stored as fat. Do some cardio 3-4 times per week to burn some excess calories, whether it be walking, cycling, jogging, stairmaster, aerobics, or a combination.

posted April 06, 2000 01:25 PM            

You say that ephedrine is hard to come by in some states. In Michigan, they sell "Mini-Thins" which consist of 25mg of ephedrine and 125 of some other expectorant.

Do you think that's suitable to use in the ECA stack?

posted April 07, 2000 02:00 AM            

I like the nor-ephedrine in Adipo. It seems to work well and it doesn't give me the shakes.

Also, when I was using ephedrine and working HIT in the gym, I would actually have to run to the bathroom because I was that close to puking...on the nor-ephedrine, I don't do that anymore, but my workouts haven't changed.

I am on a CKD diet and in the past 2 months (I started first week of Feb) I have lost 25 pounds using Adipokinetics and Guggalbolic (both my Syntrax) but have been able to add weights per week. I starting taking the Adipo twice per day, 1 in the morning and 1 in the afternoon, then I went to 2 in the morning and 1 in the afternoon...soon I will do 2 in the morning and 2 in the afternoon. I take 1 Guggal 3 times per day. It really does raise my temperature! I had the chance to buy some Triax, but at that time I had never heard about it so I didn't...I wish I did because I wish I had picked some up.

Good luck,

posted April 07, 2000 08:52 PM            

How much is the stuff?

CKD is a cyclical anabolic type diet (cyclical ketogenic diet, you can perform a search on the web for it...good key words would be Dan Duchaine, BodyOpus, Lyle McDonald, Cyclical Ketogenic)...eat few carbs on weekdays and then eat high carbs on weekends...this description is highly generalized but contains the gist.