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 How are the Biotest product tests (methoxy-7, tribex) coming?
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somec- Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11) |
posted March 29, 2000 12:20 PM
  
I've run across a few posts from early May from decadon and a few others saying they're just starting their cycles of Methoxy-7 and/or Tribex and they'd post their results. Anyone have any good/bad feedback yet? IP: Logged |
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decadon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 74) |
posted March 29, 2000 12:39 PM
the tribex is good stuff...I have used clomid after a cycle before and this is what tribex is like...my girlfriend has commented on my cum load and said that it has increased great ly....I may have increased mass somewhat..but I have also been eating my face off...I would say that tribex is the real deal,....good luck guys IP: Logged |
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lc576 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 2) |
posted March 29, 2000 09:57 PM
I TRIED TWO CYCLES OF TRIBEX. THE FIRST ONE WAS AWSOME. IT DROVE MY SEX DRIVE TO THE POINT OF DISTRACTION. THE SECOND TIME I TOOK IT I GOT NOTHING OUT OF IT. I ALSO TRIED THE METHOXY7 AND GOT ZIPPO. BIOTEST IS NOW CLAIMING THEIR TRIBEX IS NEW AND IMPROVED. I WOULD SAY GIVE IT A TRY. I WOULD NOT WASTE MY MONEY ON THE METHOXY, MY BUDDY ALSO TRIED METHOXY AND GOT NOTHING FROM IT. IP: Logged |
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BackDoc Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 48) |
posted March 31, 2000 12:13 AM
I've gotten killer results from the Methoxy. I called the company to order more and had a really good discussion with the rep. He said pretty much what I was thinking all along, that you have to be taking in your protein at the right times for the methoxy to have good effect. I drink about a gallon of water each day, plus I drink a protein shake every 2-3 hours plus I take glutamine when I first wake up and then before I go to bed. I think the timing of your dietary protein has a lot to do with success, since the Methoxy increases your nitrogen retention levels. If protein and nitrogen levels don't remain elevated at a constant rate, then the best you can expect from Methoxy is maintaining what you've got. Hope that helps. IP: Logged |
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somec- Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11) |
posted March 31, 2000 10:04 AM
BackDoc... I noticed in a post of yours from a few weeks ago you mentioned the IpriBone product from GNC as a possible cheaper alternative to the more expensive Tribex. In comparing the 2 products, the IpriBone contains 300mg of 7-Isopropoxy Isoflavone per tab as well as Vit-D and calcium, while the Tribex contains 100mg of 7-Isopropoxy Isoflavone along with Tribulus Terrestris, Avena Sativa, and Saw Palmetto. I'm under the impression that the most important ingredient in Tribex is the 7-isopropoxyisoflavone, and if this is the case, then the GNC product would be a very viable alternative. Is this your feeling as well, or does the Tribulus Terrestris make a big difference between the 2? It looks like IpriBone might compare directly with Proxylon since the Syntrax website lists no other ingredients in Proxylon besides the 7-isopropoxyisoflavone. Also, I agree with you as far as the timing of protein. My protein shake has 5g of glutamine in it, so I'm getting this throughout the day as well, and I take my ECA stack 3 times a day, every 4 hours. The only thing I'm having a hard time finding is when the optimal times are to take my creatine and 7-isopropoxyisoflavone products. IP: Logged |
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BackDoc Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 48) |
posted March 31, 2000 12:36 PM
Actually, I've been a little bit down on the 7-isopropoxy isoflavone such as in Ipribone. I had to get off the Methoxy for a couple of weeks since my order got delayed and I'd finished the bottle. I wound up taking more than twice the recommended amount of Proxylon to try and make up for the fact that I was out of Methoxy-7. I don't think it did anything for me. I wouldn't waste your money on Proxylon. I happen to like the Methoxy-7, but I'm meeting many others who don't, so I'd say it's a gamble. I think the Tribex is a pretty good product, but I'd stick with concentrating on the basics of nutrient science and hard workouts in order to get the best results. What I mean by that is that you should be taking your protein and glutamine like I mentioned in the previous message. As to when you should be taking creatine, this is entirely up to you. You will hear people try and say that you shouldn't mix creatine with protein and other stuff like that. But if you look at what the experts like John Parrillo, Charles Poliquin and others, they say it doesn't really matter and that the results will be the same. The also base their "opinions" on proven results in the gym. I've talked with some of the guys in the gym whom I've seen get really big using creatine. Most of them say you can mix creatine, glutamine and protein all in one big shake following a workout and get great results. I think I agree. I changed my after workout shake to 30 grams of protein, 5 grams of micronized creatine, 5 grams of glutamine, and roughly 100 grams of carbohydrates. I know that seems like a lot of carbs, but this recipe is what Coach Poliquin recommends and he should know, cause he trains some of the best bodybuilders out there. If you are worried about the carbs in the shake, then you can take alpha lipoic acid capsules with your solid food meals (200 mg with each meal) to help your insulin levels stay balanced. That should keep any extra carbs from turning to fat. Try this shake and see if it works for you. Hope that helps. Good luck and good health. IP: Logged |
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somec- Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11) |
posted March 31, 2000 01:10 PM
Thanks for the tips. I'll give your recommended shake a try. The only issue I can see is that since I do an evening workout, I normally get my post-workout shake around 3 hours before bedtime, so I try to keep the carbs moderate in this high-protein meal. I have heard several times that a workout should be followed by high carbs, but I've been reluctant to go overboard since it's an evening workout. The bottle of creatine I have suggests taking 1 gram before workout, 1 gram after, and 1 gram at bed, but I've been planning to just add 5 grams to my shake with the next batch. Again, thanks for the tips. IP: Logged |
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BackDoc Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 48) |
posted March 31, 2000 01:48 PM
I know exactly what you mean. I have to work around a tough schedule to get home and work out. Sometimes I'm stuck with no time to work out except in the evenings. Like you, I'm not really keen on the idea of eating carbs and getting fat. I've seen a pretty good solution to this problem by cutting the carbs down to about 50 grams and then adding 200 mg of Alpha Lipoic Acid which should serve to do the same thing---help infuse the creatine into muscle cells by mimicking insulin. The only thing with Alpha Lipoic Acid is that it needs to be in capsule form--not in a premixed drink like some brands include it in their creatine. ALA should also be taken along with carbohydrates since taking ALA on an empty stomach might lead to low blood sugar levels. You might also think of taking 200 mg of alpha lipoic acid at the same time as your protein-glutamine-creatine-carb shake in order to help get rid of any excess carbs. I hope that helps you in some way. Let me know what you think of the shake and how it is working for you. By the way, I'm getting some good reports from others who have been supplementing with Alpha lipoic acid. Since abdominal fat seems to be more insulin resistent, supplementing with the lipoic acid seems to help stubborn love handles. I'm also getting some new information that anyone trying to lose love handles might consider that it could be a cortisol problem as well. Since you and me and just about everyone else leads a stressful life (which means increased cortisol levels) I'm going to check out a product by AST called "cortistat" to see if that helps. Thanks and good luck! IP: Logged |
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decadon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 74) |
posted March 31, 2000 01:51 PM
actually each tribex capsule has 100mg of ipriflavone...and each serving is three tablets....tribex is expensive but it is good IP: Logged |
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