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big baller
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posted March 06, 2000 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big baller     Edit/Delete Message
does anyone know what the best type of whey protein there is for muscle growth? i checked out proteinfactory.com and there is soo many different types of protein? which is best?> there are soo many kinds of whey. which is best?
thanks all
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SigChiPimp
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posted March 09, 2000 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SigChiPimp   Click Here to Email SigChiPimp     Edit/Delete Message
EAS Precision Protein in my opinion is the best on the market. Check it out at BeyondMuscle.com

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Behemoth
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posted March 10, 2000 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Behemoth     Edit/Delete Message
Extreme Nutrition's protein blend (that matches human muscle tissue ratios)is, in my opinion, the best and most advanced protein source on the market. Sorry but it is just sold in Britain at the moment!

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decadon
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posted March 11, 2000 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for decadon     Edit/Delete Message
big baller....EAS is a joke...way over priced...you went to the best and cheapest place to get protein...you want a mixture of protein so the breakdown occurs over time...so a mixture of hydrolyzed whey, soy, casienate, and glutamine would be good....just go with there pre made versions.....there is a good mrp for the day time and a good night time protein mixture...use them

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Sittin' On Diesel
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posted March 19, 2000 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sittin' On Diesel   Click Here to Email Sittin' On Diesel     Edit/Delete Message
Don't sweat who makes the best protein. That's really small stuff compared to other things.

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brandon
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posted March 20, 2000 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for brandon   Click Here to Email brandon     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, Diesel, let's take it a step further: it doesn't even matter whether it's whey protein or not. The fact is that naturals have not gotten any bigger sonce the indutry began pushing whey protein. Has anybody heard of any study proving that ingesting whey protein will add more muscle mass than, say, milk and egg protein?

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Camp71
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posted March 20, 2000 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Camp71   Click Here to Email Camp71     Edit/Delete Message
As far as stuff I have taken.. I really liked Actisyn Protein by SPORTSPHARMA.. it tasted really good too, which fopr me is a must, and should be for someone who drinks a lot of shakes... also CHAMPION NUTRITION's chocolate is good.. but the vanilla is disgusting

-JC

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animal B
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posted April 08, 2000 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for animal B   Click Here to Email animal B     Edit/Delete Message
NITRO-TECH

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Quadzilla43
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posted April 12, 2000 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quadzilla43     Edit/Delete Message
In my opinion, Designer Whey is still the best protein out there. It only costs 20 bucks for 40 servings. Alot of the others a too overpriced, and nitro tech, although it may produce gains, is overhyped. Hell, i heard if u take the serving size and recommended dosages it will last for 10 or 11 days at the most. And to the guy that said protein is small stuff: Protein is the main building block of muscle tissue. No protein, no growth.

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BackDoc
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posted April 12, 2000 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
Designer protein is the best tasting and best quality for the money. Of course, other brands have good quality too. I do like precision protein also, and when I find a good deal on it, I buy it. Max Muscle makes a product called High 5 that contains 5 different protein sources to enhance a "timed release" effect of the proteins. I like it also.
But since we all work hard for our money, then I'd say get the designer protein for a couple of months. Then experiment with the other brands. I'm sure you'll see that Designer is just as good.

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benzo27
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posted April 12, 2000 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for benzo27   Click Here to Email benzo27     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 61514407
I like Max muscle chocolate whey protein. It's about $50 for 8lbs (if you buy it locally at the store instead of online) and it taste pretty good too.

Benzo

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rodney
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posted April 16, 2000 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rodney   Click Here to Email rodney     Edit/Delete Message
Nitro-tech is the bomb just finished my first tub actually made some gains.
Paid 52.99 Canadian @ www.the-gym.net

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Steak Helmet
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posted April 28, 2000 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steak Helmet   Click Here to Email Steak Helmet     Edit/Delete Message
Nitro-Tech is good if you have the cash. It is the best tasting and by far the best over all. I would not take the recommended three servings a day. One or two is enough. Get the rest of your protein from the foods you eat throughout the day. Eating is by far the best thing to do. EAT TO GROW.

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BackDoc
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posted April 28, 2000 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
Protein not important? That's crazy. You should see how much bigger your muscles will get when you increase your protein to at least 250 grams a day. Other supplements (other than vitamins/minerals) are the small stuff.
I found a good deal at dpsnutrition.com on the brand alternative nutrition's whey protein. 77 servings for 27.50. They even have the lab results on the quality.

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max258
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posted April 28, 2000 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for max258     Edit/Delete Message
Designer Protein.

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SmallWristinator
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posted April 29, 2000 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmallWristinator   Click Here to Email SmallWristinator     Edit/Delete Message
chocolate cytopro from cytodyne technologies is really good, and it is supposively the best quality protein (isolates or whatever)...but i must say i've never seen one protein powder work better than another..and i've tried alot of them...it's just a way for me to add more protein to my diet easily

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peety
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posted April 29, 2000 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peety   Click Here to Email peety     Edit/Delete Message
everyone is concerned with brands too much. a good isolate protein is the best in my opinion. A whey, I feel is better for a time like post-workout, and a soy would be better for longer time release like at night time. and almost all of the brands that you buy at a place like GNC are overpriced. try http://www.proteinfactory.com/

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mrluckyman
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posted April 30, 2000 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mrluckyman     Edit/Delete Message
As long as you are getting what the label states. The biggest problem are the rip offs.
Check out Bil Phillips, "Supplement Review" for the latest on how some of the brands stack up when tested for their "actual" content of protein per serving. Sure he promotes his own brand EAS, but he is pretty fair in assessing the other brands he tests.

To keep your body growing andto keep from getting catabolic you should ingest 40 grams of proteinwith or without carbs every 4 hours throughout the day, and if you wake up in the middle of the night it ok to have a drink then as well. You will be wasting the protein if you go much over 40 grams, because that is about the limit that your liver can convert to transport through your blood stream and to your muscle tissues in that time period.

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BackDoc
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posted April 30, 2000 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
That's actually a partial myth. Yes, you're right in terms of limited amount of liver enzymes allocated for protein absorption. You're also right that about 40 grams is around the limit for GI protein viability. However, as cortisol and creatinine levels rise, so will the need for extra protein, as your body will "manufacture" the needed protein from other muscles if it doesn't get it through the digestive tract. This means in laymans terms that following a very strenuous workout your body will basically utilize much more protein than normal. So you should take in extra protein within about an hour of your workouts. Of course, in order to help lower cortisol levels as well as to stabilize insulin levels in the blood (which is very closely correlated to growth hormone levels) you should take in both vitamin C (decreases cortisol) and alpha lipoic acid (mimics insulin). I hope this helps.

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bad brains
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posted May 01, 2000 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bad brains   Click Here to Email bad brains     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68109812
Ultimate Whey by Next Nutrition.....Also Pro Complex by Optitmum isnt a bad second.....

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waltzman
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posted May 01, 2000 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waltzman   Click Here to Email waltzman     Edit/Delete Message
ultamate whey
good price too

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sabes35
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posted May 01, 2000 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sabes35   Click Here to Email sabes35     Edit/Delete Message
I kep hearing good tings about ISOPURE...anyone agree?

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Neiko
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posted May 02, 2000 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neiko   Click Here to Email Neiko     Edit/Delete Message
NITRO-TECH

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lothar
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posted May 02, 2000 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lothar     Edit/Delete Message
Cytodyne's cytopro - tastes good, good science ehind it if that means anything. I tend to agree that most any protein will do - get something you can stomach.

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Serial Joe
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posted May 10, 2000 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Serial Joe     Edit/Delete Message
Bill Phillips Supplement Review? HAHA That came out in 1997. No offense but almost everything in that book is way outdated or biased towards EAS.

Nitro-Tech is great, however if you are on a budget, Prolab, Nuclear Nutrition or Alternative Nutrition are good.

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Thick dog
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posted May 11, 2000 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
Most wheys that are micro filtrated are good. Cross Pro and Cyto Pro are a couple. Also Designer, Isopure, Metrx, and most other reputable companies put out good protein powders.

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B_Funk
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posted May 12, 2000 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for B_Funk   Click Here to Email B_Funk     Edit/Delete Message
I use Optimum Nutrition.

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PeteyPete
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posted May 19, 2000 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeteyPete   Click Here to Email PeteyPete     Edit/Delete Message
I like Precision Protein by EAS, it's isolate and easy to stomach, it's also the best tasting protein supplement i've had so far, If you know where to look you can get it for around $25

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mack
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posted May 19, 2000 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mack     Edit/Delete Message
Don't Trust Bill Phillips in the Supplement Review. It is just one big advertisement for EAS.I like Designer Protein and Nitro-Tech the best, I usually go withe Designer Protein because it is more affordable. Hope that helps.

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Bossman
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posted May 30, 2000 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bossman   Click Here to Email Bossman     Edit/Delete Message
Some of you guys need to do some research. Whey protein is the best. Who ever said EAS is a joke needs to read up, EAS supplements outperform all others in every test I've ever seen and anyone I know who has taken them has said the same. More money, but better product. I personally prefer ISOpure

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GOWZER
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posted May 30, 2000 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GOWZER   Click Here to Email GOWZER     Edit/Delete Message
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU USING NITRO TECH THAT SHIT IS FULL OF ASPARTAME.AND IF YOUR DRINKING 5-6 SERVINGS A DAY OF PROTEIN LIKE I DO THATS ALOT OF FUNKY CANCER CAUSING ASPARTAME.WHY DONT YOU JUST SMOKE NEWPORTS INSTEAD ITS CHEAPER...
AND TO THOSE GUYS WHO SAY THEYVE MADE GAINS FROM N.T I THINK YOULL FIND A LITTLE SURPRISE CALLED CREATINE IN THE INGREDIENTS..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ..DONT BE M.T SUCKERS,SUCKERS...

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Serial Joe
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posted May 30, 2000 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Serial Joe     Edit/Delete Message
Umm...dude, new studies have shown that Aspartame is safe. Do a search on the net and know your material before you make stupid posts.

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grosso
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posted May 30, 2000 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for grosso     Edit/Delete Message
Super Whey Fuel , Twinlab.

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GOWZER
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posted May 30, 2000 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GOWZER   Click Here to Email GOWZER     Edit/Delete Message
who the fuck said aspartame is safe,the people who make it keep ingesting it asshole...

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BackDoc
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posted May 31, 2000 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
To be perfectly honest, he's right. Aspartame is totally UNSAFE and I have proof. I have over a thousand case studies linking aspartame to various diseases and disorders. There is also a website devoted to building a class action suit against the former maker of nutrasweet. If anyone is interested I can provide it. When people find out the history behind the making of aspartame they will not be pleased.
One source that backs this claim is the commerical pilot's flight manual which states that pilots should not consume aspartame containing products within 24 hours of flight departure since it has been linked to seizure disorders and loss of short-term memory. A friend of mine who flew A-10's said it's in their military flight manual as well, although I haven't verified this personally.
Take it easy.

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Knowledge
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posted May 31, 2000 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Knowledge   Click Here to Email Knowledge     Edit/Delete Message
AST's VP2 is the only 100% hydrolized whey isolate on the market. Its biological value is 188. Beats everything else. Obviously the best powder out there....
Regarding Nitro-Tech: this is a regular whey CONCENTRATE! It contains only 67 % protein. 67 PROCENT!! Thats fuc*ing low. Check out what AST says about them:http://www.ast-ss.com/q_a/daily/mar00/daily_qa_3-14-00.htm

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GOWZER
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posted May 31, 2000 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GOWZER   Click Here to Email GOWZER     Edit/Delete Message
thank you backdoc i knew somebody out there knew their sh*t.im shocked that its in the pilots manual thats insane.and people are ingesting this crap everyday.think about those poor fellas who drink 5-6 servings a day of nitrotech thats too much aspartame those guys in mt are true assholes.i hope that company goes out of business im sick of em.

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Serial Joe
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posted May 31, 2000 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Serial Joe     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah whatever, AST is full of shit on that one...They totally avoid the question and go on to state that it's full of "fillers and sweeteners", when anyone who has tried it can taste the Alpha Lipoic Acid in there without even reading the ingredients to know it's there. Plus they overlook the WPI 97 and about 5 other main ingredients beside WPC. AST totally dropped the ball on that question. (which they probably just ask themselves, and then provide themselves with an answer)

Someone should ask AST why they don't have a creatine product with ALA....LOL Cuz they suck and because MT has it patented.

Also somebody tell AST to get an editor or at least use a spell checker on their work : "Whey protein technology is now much more advanced that it was 10 years ago"

"that it was"??? C'mon you'd buy from company that can't even spell their own propeganda right? I'd hate to see the rest of their operation.

Oh and for you so called "scientific" guys, here's an article that will get you up to speed on aspartame. http://www.getbig.com/articles/aspartame1.htm

[This message has been edited by Serial Joe (edited May 31, 2000).]

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BackDoc
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posted May 31, 2000 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
As far as the above link that claims to have the inside scoop on the latest "research" regarding aspartame (oh, and I like the little sublime flame of "scientific types" too), here's a boatload of information that will dispute just about everything the FDA and any other group has tried to say about aspartame. Use this poison if you will, but at least be informed of the risks.

Here are a few hundred reports of adverse reactions associated with aspartame use. And don't give me the line that they are not real science because the article in the link above made no mention of any particular cited research proving the safety of aspartame...it only makes associations with cleverly wording such as "no evidence of brain tumors in humans"...but makes no mention about the hundreds of rats killed by experimentation with this stuff (sometimes it takes us "scientific types" to find these word games) http://www.holisticmed.net/aspartame/adverse.txt

And if you want more to read here's a dedicated website devoted to uncovering and exposing the history of aspartame...betcha didn't know it was first designed as a neurotoxin for chemical warfare! The below site even has some documents from the FDA showing that they knew of (and may have helped to suppress) the research showing aspartame to be toxic. Check out the section written by more than a few M.D.'s and Ph.D.'s who agree that aspartame is a time bomb. http://www.dorway.com/

It's enough to raise many an eyebrow. Why use this stuff if there is even a hint of danger? Well, there's more than just a hint of it if you read these links.


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CB38AC
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posted June 03, 2000 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
Who the hell cares??!!?????

PROTIEN IS FOOD NOT A MIRACLE!

BUY WHAT IS CHEAPEST LIKE OPTIMUM NUTRITION!

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Beezers
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posted June 04, 2000 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beezers   Click Here to Email Beezers     Edit/Delete Message
i agree.

optimum nutrition is very good.

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cockdezl
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posted June 10, 2000 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cockdezl     Edit/Delete Message
"who the fuck said aspartame is safe,the people who make it keep ingesting it asshole..."

GOWZER, if you don't use aspartame, then that is the best reason for me to continue using it...since you are the dumbest bastard on the boards.

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