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 What's the best over the counter supplement to lose fat and gain muscle fast?
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Flames0015 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 3) |
posted March 03, 2000 02:09 PM
  
I currently just take protein bars and eat a balanced diet, and have bulked up quite a bit in the last 3 months and was just wondering what supplement I could add to help me even more. I need an idea of what you think are the best supplements out there to lose fat and spur muscle growth. Please include exactly what you take for supplements and what else you eat. THNKS it will really hepl this beginner!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BackDoc Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 15) |
posted March 04, 2000 11:45 AM
You may have to take more than one supplement to get both effects (fat loss and muscle gain). For fat reduction, I like taking MD6 by Biotest (www.biotest-online.com). You may have to experiment with how much you can take...I take one capsule with breakfast and another with lunch. But you may be able to tolerate more without it affecting your sleep. For muscle gain, there are many options you can try. I personally like Methoxylon by Syntrax (www.syntrax.com) and it's been the only supplement that I've seen results using. Other people have good results with creatine, others really like glutamine which I also take(4-5 grams at bedtime)and it will speed your muscle recovery. Some people take the various androstene products, I did for almost a year and didn't see any results. Another product that I think is pretty good is called ZMA which contains Zinc and magnesium and Vitamin B6 and has some pretty good research backing it up as a testosterone booster. You may have to experiment with other things to help you. It has taken me quite a while to find the combination that works the best for me. I personally think that supplements are great for helping you get past plateaus, but like you, I think that eating right and getting plenty of rest is the best "supplement" to building muscle. Hope this helped. IP: Logged |
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d1734 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 15) |
posted March 04, 2000 01:07 PM
BackDoc: i am very curious about 7-methyl-5-methoxy isoflavone. there are many products out there including the one you speak of, and methoxy-7 by biotest. are you totally sold that it works? is it effective no matter how long you consecutively take it (doesn't down regulate)? is it as good as the hype makes it out to be? im also interested in information on tribex-500 et al. if you would like to have a conversation about what works for each of us, give me an email at [email protected] id like to share ideas and experiences. always gotta be cautious when your dealing with the supplement industry. IP: Logged |
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LV 426 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 87) |
posted March 04, 2000 02:27 PM
hey guys just bought a 3 month supply of Methoxy-7 by Biotest$$$$ i'll post my results when i'm done first i have to reduce/eliminate all other supplements(i'll keep ZMA) then do two servings per day go to www.t-mag.com and read about their line of products(excellent webzine) Methoxy-7 doesn't need to be cycled it has no effect on hormone levels personally i won't buy from synthrax or what ever their name is I DON'T LIKE THEIR BUSINESS PRACTICES IP: Logged |
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decadon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted March 04, 2000 06:46 PM
I picked up the md-6 and the tribex....I will also keep you up to date when I start IP: Logged |
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d1734 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 15) |
posted March 04, 2000 07:05 PM
i agree biotest is a good company, but a bit overpriced in my opinion. a 1 month supply of methoxy-7 is $75 (ouch!). im sure MD6 is a good product, but i use adipokenetix because it is much cheaper. defintely let me know how it goes IP: Logged |
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decadon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted March 04, 2000 10:05 PM
d....I get md-6 for 26.59 and adipokinetix for 20...here is the deal...with md-6 you get...guggulbolic+adipokinetix and l-tyrosine for only 6.59 more...what do you think is the better deal....as far as the 7 methoxy...I think that was only 40 for a month here in scranton....let me know if you want any of these at these prices...email me [email protected] luck [This message has been edited by decadon (edited March 04, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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THOMAS Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted March 05, 2000 12:00 AM
adrenalin real yohimbine not yohimbee plus 3 different ephedrines at www.zoelabs.com works better than any thing i ever used other than thyroid and gh drugs.goodluck IP: Logged |
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LOWE254 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 45) |
posted March 05, 2000 02:09 PM
Just try "andro heat" from substraite soultions! About 26$ a bottle at GNC ------------------ IP: Logged |
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qui Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted March 06, 2000 09:56 AM
CLA definitely does not work. If you have access to a good endocrinologist, organic thyroid (when not overused) can be helpful - I took Armour Thyroid (contains both T3/T4) for a few weeks with good results. Lots of green veggies to detox your liver, fish and fish oils, cold-pressed flaxseed oil, ipriflavone, whey protein (as pure as possible with low sodium (below 1%) and low fat (take you EFA's separately)
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