posted February 28, 2000 12:29 AM            

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I was doing a "cycle" of Muscletech products and I also used a few amp's of STEN. I got gyno on one side and I had Kidney Stones four times this past year. I was using Anotesten, Nortesten, Acetabolan, Hydroxycut, Meso-Tech, Cell-Tech, and Creatine 6000 all in their recomended doses. Could it be mearly coincidence or does anyone think that the Muscletech products contributed to my gyno and kidney stones??? Please Help as I want start up again!!!! I have not been lifting due to the gyno removal. B

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posted February 28, 2000 10:03 AM            

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There is likely nothing wrong with the manufacturer or the individual components but it begs the question why anyone would start a cycle without medical supervision? I mean, how much does a blood test cost? Pennies compared to the cost of gyno removal. In a day or so you can know precisely your total Estradiol, Testosterone (free, total), SHBG, LH, Liver Panel, etc.. levels .. so why not have this data handy both before-during-after a cycle?

The best performing athletes and pros alike are under constant medical analysis to see precisely what is going on - it does not require you have a doctor - labs exist all over the USA willing to draw blood and take the samples you are paying for. The lab usually has a doc on staff who will sign the prescription but you don't even have to meet with the doctor.

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posted March 03, 2000 11:18 PM         

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Besides the blood test, were you taking all these at once? That is enough to stress any ones kidneys. I don't even think drinking 10gallons of water a day would help that. You are just wasting your money by taking all that stuff together. And why you you take Anotesten, Nortesten and Sten? If you are going to take juice, don't take the prohormones. Why you you waste your money?! Take the sten and some deca together. Take creatine after your cycle to help maintain your gains. Bro, chill out with so much stuff, your are pissing it away.

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