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BigBerm
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 06, 2000 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigBerm   Click Here to Email BigBerm     Edit/Delete Message
has anyone tried their prohormones decavar or paradeca?

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MR. BONES
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 08, 2000 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MR. BONES   Click Here to Email MR. BONES     Edit/Delete Message
I bought paradeca, but I haven't used it three times a day like it says you should. I haven't noticed any weight gains, but I have noticed the acne it gives me on my back and chest. It also seems to get me more focused while lifting. I think I'll buy it once more and take it three times as directed, if it doesn't do anything, then I'm done with pro-hormones.

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RideHard
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 09, 2000 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RideHard   Click Here to Email RideHard     Edit/Delete Message
Anybody know anything about thier claim that Dan Duchiane had something to do with the developement of paradeca? Thier delivery system seems sound, I've read that people are injecting these for even better absorbtion. Any thoughts?

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grosso
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posted February 10, 2000 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for grosso     Edit/Delete Message
You cannot inject Paradedca , it's an oral stuff. Anyway , it's really a potent product that may cause gyno. Be carefull ! Stack it with Crysin if you notice some problems to your tits.

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RideHard
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 15, 2000 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RideHard   Click Here to Email RideHard     Edit/Delete Message
Bump-
Anybody else try this stuff yet?

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Formula
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 24, 2000 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Formula   Click Here to Email Formula     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah if anybody has info on this shit please pass it along. I might be good to used it after a cycle to help keep the gains. Then again it could be worthless shit.

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BackDoc
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 25, 2000 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
I think it is probably the best product on the market that is basically a prohormone. Now I don't know anything about the quality control of that particular company, I'm only going on the basis of happy customers. The main drawbacks are the price and potential side effects (gyno). One guy I talk to says that to see any really good gains you have to stack Paradeca and decavar together! Wow! Talk about expensive!
I know that some people like 4-andro better that paradeca or decavar because of the price and they say they get equally good results.
I think I've seen more satisfied bodybuilders and weightlifters who have been trying 7-isopropoxyisoflavone (whew! say that one five times really fast). There are a couple of brands that are both great quality [Syntrax makes Proxylon ($30/month) and Methoxylon which is supposed to be even more concentrated and effective ($60/month) and Biotest makes methoxy-7 ($35/month)].
This product is also known as ipriflavone and has no reported side effects. It is actually beneficial in that it is apparently good for preventing osteoporosis, it has also been used in Europe to combat severe weight loss syndromes induced by certain diseases. One of the guys who writes a column for Testosterone magazine says he used to sell it by the truckload to athletes because they swore it was highly anabolic. Recent studies are apparently showing that this stuff does not mess with your testosterone levels but does prevent the aromitization of testosterone to estrogen and dht (which means you can take it and not worry about gyno). It works by increasing your nitrogen retention and protein assimilation rates---which is probably the same way anabolic steroids work (not even scientists fully agree on how that works).
I've been taking 7-iso (the cheaper Syntrax brand "Proxylon") for about 2 weeks and I can readily attest that without changing my diet or working out harder I am pushing past a year-long plateau in muscle gains. That's a big deal to me because I usually don't see results from supplements. I don't know if that means it will be effective for everyone, but many everyone I've talked to who has used it agrees they've told me that they are switching from andro to 7-isopropoxyisoflavone.
Just keep your eye out for it and see if it you hear of anyone else having success with it.
I know that really didn't focus on your question, but yes, I've heard of people really liking paradeca and decavar---at least those who can afford it.

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