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tm morrison
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posted February 04, 2000 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tm morrison   Click Here to Email tm morrison     Edit/Delete Message
Does anyone have any experience with this product? Is it as anabolic as claimed?

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qui
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posted February 11, 2000 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for qui   Click Here to Email qui     Edit/Delete Message
No. In fact you may save some money by purchasing Ipriflavone all by itself.

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d1734
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posted February 19, 2000 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for d1734   Click Here to Email d1734     Edit/Delete Message
what are you talking about? this product isnt based on ipriflavone, it supposed to be the most effective of all of them, but i havnt tried it.

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BackDoc
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posted February 22, 2000 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
I've been taking Methoxy-7(Biotest) and Proxylon(Syntrax) for about 2 weeks now. I know this probably sounds crazy, but taking these two supps is building me up faster than a year of taking 4-andro. I know, I know, sounds like an idiot rambling. I kid you not. I haven't changed my 3 workouts a week routine at all. The article at www.testosterone.net is right on the money. If other people have the same effect as I'm having then this supplement will be the end of andro. If I may be so bold, for those who think this is all b.s., Just you wait and see how fast these supplements sell and catch on with the public!
The thing I like about them is that they increase nitrogen retention and dramatically increase protein assimilation---at least that's what the product lit says about it. Since I'm not sure which product is having this effect on me, I'm going to stop taking the Methoxy-7 and only take the Proxylon. Then I'm going to switch and see if only one of them gives me this level of vascularity and pump. I'll report the results on this message string in a couple of weeks when I've done this.

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BackDoc
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posted February 22, 2000 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
Here's the article from the website I gave in my previous reply.
TC Luoma's report on Methoxy-7

Clinical trials were run and patents were applied in the US and Europe (late '70s) for its (7-isopropoxyisoflavone)use as "an anabolically effective compound for use as a pharmaceutical or a feed additive." The necessary research results were convincing enough, and the patents were granted.
So what did the trials reveal about Methoxy-7 that warranted the granting of a patent? In the standard rat levator ani test, used with anabolic steroids to determine their anabolic:androgenic ratio, it was determined that Methoxy-7 was, indeed, highly anabolic, yet totally free of any androgenic or estrogenic effects.
ALL GAINS CONSISTED MAINLY OF LEAN TISSUE and were accompanied by an increase in vitality. After detailed investigation, no alteration of endocrine function was found, clearly indicating that GAINS WERE NONHORMONAL IN ORIGIN.
These compounds demonstrated INCREASED AND FASTER PROTEIN UTILIZATION, via labeled albumin. When used with human patients suffering from pathological wasting, and after only a few weeks of use, an average gain of two to three kilograms was noted.
Another characteristic feature of the anabolic effect was an increase in calcium, phosphorous, potassium, and nitrogen retention, to a significant degree. In other experiments, the CATABOLIC EFFECTS OF CORTISONE WERE PARTIALLY SUPPRESSED, and it was concluded that "identical doses of anabolic steroids do not exert anabolic effects stronger than those of these compounds!"
Chinoin pointed out in their trials the important advantage of Methoxy-7 over anabolic agents belonging to the sterane group (steroids) in that it DOESN'T EXHIBIT ANDROGENIC OR LIVER-DAMAGING EFFECTS. It also decreases oxygen consumption of tissues and LOWERS CHOLESTEROL.
Ironically, the only thing that Chinoin can't determine is how these compounds work.

Although we are in the early days of Methoxy-7, this compound seems very exciting. We're looking at a highly anabolic agent that's non-hormonal and, therefore, doesn't interfere with normal endocrine function-ideal for both clean athletes and the chemically assisted, as there's no feedback inhibition of endogenous hormones.
No, I'm not going to make the decidedly unwise assertion that the effects of Methoxy-7 are identical to that of anabolic steroids. But it looks, at least, as if we're in the same ballpark.


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tm morrison
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posted February 22, 2000 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tm morrison   Click Here to Email tm morrison     Edit/Delete Message
I have used this product for 5 weeks(while stopping the use of creatine forthe first time in over a year).Without a doubt my strength (poundage increase on basic exercises) has increased the most significantly since first doing creatine (like 15% or so on deadlifts and squats and I have been doing them for years) however my weight has remained approx. the same for some reason!I'd love to get more feedback on this promising prod
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