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 ARE YOU PEOPLE @$^$#@ STUPID????????
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 680 |
Stop asking the same frikkin' questions!!!!!!! Creatine this, creatine that!! what's better? Ripped Fuel, or Xenadrine? Let me give you a quick list of supplements, what they do, and if they're worth it: Creatine: If it works on you, great! whatever you gain, that's what you gain! You won't gain more from fancy Cell-Tech than with a regular powder. Just get the cheapest one from one of the major supplement companies, and you're set! nothing else to it! Glutamine: Worthless, it's not worth the insane amounts of money it costs for what it does, don't waste your money. Tribulus: I personally have never seen any results with this, and I have tried the regular stuff, Tribex 500, etc. Sure you get the libido effects, but it's been theorized that it works more like Viagra than Clomid. You don't see people gaining muscle off Viagra. Andro: NO F@#ING ANDRO WORKS!!! Only way for it to work is either: 1. Make it in injectable ester solution. 2. AA-17 Alkalate it, so it survives the Liver, kinda like D-bol, and so on. Problem? as soon as someone does this, FDA will classify andro as a CH-III drug, just like every other steroid, thus making it illegal and pulling it off the shelves. Besides, you'd only get 1/4 - 1/2 the results, if lucky. ECA Stacks: (Ripped Fuel, Hydroxycut, Xenadrine, and thousands of other clones) They work, but they are all basically the same!!! granted, some a a bit better than others, but most are NOT. Go buy some caffeine tabs, some ephedrine tabs, some lipoic acid, and you got yourself a powerful fat burner! Methoxy: A waste!! you will not see any results with this stuff. If it does have an anabolic effect, it's so small, it's not worth 1/10 of the outrageous $$$ it costs. Ribose: You will see higher endurance probably, but won't see muscle gains. GH releasers: Worthless, they "might" stimulate GH release, but only for a few minutes at most. You'd have to take every 30mins and even then It's doubtful you'd see anything. Hell? what else is there? I ran into a mental block!!! well, I think that's enough for today, hopefully you will all smarten up and stop wasting your money!! ------------------
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 680 |
You know, I just realized some of you might be very new to this stuff. If you are, please don't take my rant personally. If you have questions, I'm the guy to ask. ------------------
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1063 |
... oh hey... oh wait... I'm in the wrong thread, oops. Hi Future One, How ya doing today?? ------------------  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 471 |
i have to bump cuz i feel just like you about this sometimes... besides this is funny... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 126 |
What about flax oil???? Does that stuff work too?????? I heard it will give me 10 pounds of muscle in 4 weeks!!!!!!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 186 |
shit i wish it did,i have been using it for around 3 monhts now and havent really noticed a difference from not using it,i just use it as a fat source and to make sure i get efa's ,i have heard people say that before too,i dont know if it is bullshit or if my body is just not responding to it or something | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 126 |
Oh man, you know I was just kidding right? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 186 |
oh my bad | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 30 |
Future One What do you think of Ekdisten (ecdysten) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 680 |
I believe that's a hormone in insects that to THEM is anabolic. From what I know it doesn't seem to be effective in humans. That's one of the ingredients in ZMASS right? I believe it is, but can't remember. Anyway, I've seen people use ZMASS with no amazing results, just what you'd expect from regular ZMA, better sleep, and maybe a little strenght. ------------------
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 400 |
if I wanna get big is Myoplex better than sustenon? j/k - funny post | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 30 |
don't know about zmas it is in ritbol thanks | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 240 |
i wouldlike to disagree about when you said that no Andro works...I used the shit for a few weeks last summer and definately felt alot stronger and was able to do a little more weight on bench and squats...they would not make a big deal about how young kids are using Andro if it didnt raise testosterone levels=bad for young kids... | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 36 |
just chill out. this board is here for the people that have questions about these supplements. maybe when they ask a question u can give them an answer on it. a lot of these guys are new to these supplements and just want a little background info on things because they are thinking about trying it. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 240 |
yeah man, someone had to tell you this stuff at one point | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 32 |
hey future? u obviously know your stuff, about everthing. ive used most of the crap uve mentioned and yes alot of it is crap... well my question is more along the lines of the gear, which i may be in the wrong area but what supplements should i take while juicin? if any? i take buttloads of whey already and plan to continue while on it. ive heard that people take eca's on it? well let me know if anything will give me a better result while takin some deca(8weeks) let me know if u got some time man.. thanks ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 36 |
zma helped me keep my gains after a cycle. tribulus works good like that too. dont for get estrogen blockers though. thats a must. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 680 |
Is it a Deca only cycle? how much are you using? and how long? Anyway, the supplements to use would all mostly be AFTER the cycle. Stay away from ECA's because they will speed up your metabolism and make it harder to put on muscle. There's nothing really I could reccomend, expect Creatine, and Glutamine in large doses, to keep muscle wasting to a minimun. I would get Clomid, but if you can't get that, and your cycle being pretty mild, you Could get by with using a combination of Tribulus, Maca, and Phosphadytilserine in large doses. ------------------
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Cool Novice
Posts: 32 |
yes its a deca only cycle, but i was thinking about throwing in some winstrol tabs, but im not sure how much that will benefit me.. ill be one for 8 weeks. i was thinking of starting at 200/week,for 2 weeks, then up to 300/week, for 3, then 400/week, for 2 weeks then back to 300 for a week and then back to 200. but im trying to get some clomid right now.. what about nolvadex? do u think i might need that?well thanks so far, i plan on going back on cell tech when im done, i have some left, thats the only reason why. anyways, thanks alot and if u have a better way to take the deca let me know, and if i should throw some winny in or even the nolva.. thanks man ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 304 |
alot of supps are trash but I must diagree on one major point. Glutamine is very good and as the most abundant amino acid in the body very neccessary. For muscular developement even more so. So supplementing with glutamine makes sense when working out for growth. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 51 |
Glutamine: Worthless, it's not worth the insane amounts of money it costs for what it does, don't waste your money. There's nothing really I could reccomend, expect Creatine, and Glutamine in large doses, to keep muscle wasting to a minimun. So which one is it - Glutamine = good or bad!!!!!!! Big contradiction here. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 680 |
droptop: That's what I said, Glutamine has some benefits, but to be used on it's own is a waste. On the other hand, if you're doing an AS cycle, then it changes everything, because now the goal is to KEEP the muscle you gained. In that case, Glutamine might be worth the price to be used temporarily after the cycle. THE SMACK: Is this a first cycle? you won't gain much, maybe 6-10lbs, if lucky, on this. Tell me what you have and I'll try and make you a good cycle. You should try to get clomid. You probably won't need the nolva, but with deca it wouldn't help you anyway. Try to get dbols, but winny tabs will do. ------------------
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Cool Novice
Posts: 35 |
future one,with all due respect,your glutamine theory is incosistent.now that i think about it,all your theories are based on what exactly...?i understand that the majority of suppllement companies have drawn you to this attitude,but in my opinion,there's few quality supplements out there that do match their claims.for guys who are not using AS,such as myself,we rely on these supplements to "aid" in our physique enhancing quest.i've seen some guys on the take as far as AS are concerned,and in reality i wasn't impressed w/ their results at all.does this mean that the AS used were worthless?or perhaps the guy using them was misinformed on how to use them???i beleive it's the same w/ supplements.information is the key here to proper execution of all "aids" in question here.all this to say that the generalities stated in your post,came from where exactly?just curious.not flaming!!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 243 |
Glutamine works always. I use it on and off. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 680 |
Ok, so can you honestly tell me that you have gained any significant mass using glutamine? we're talking more than 5lbs here, anything less could have been placebo. ------------------
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Cool Novice
Posts: 35 |
o.k. now we're talking future...i'm glad you didn't take my e-mail as a flame.my experience w/ glutamine resulted as such:by taking 10 grams before my w-out and 10 grams post w-out,i gained 30 lbs(mostly muscle beacause my bodyfat stayed @ 9%) in 8 1/2 months.i trained w/ maximum intensity by using approx 10-12 per body part in the 4-6 rep range(one body part/day).i also felt that my oxygen supply while working out increased and kept me from giving up towards the end of my work out.during this period,i only used glutamine(for all 8 1/2 months) and hydrolyzed whey protein isolate.the combination of these 2 supplements,and really "clean" diet(55 pro/35 carb/10 fat)brought me to where i am right now.thx for hearing me out!!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 240 |
Ive seen people make significant gains using andro and I have myself | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 56 |
Mark MaGwire (how DO you spell that?) took Andro and look how big he got. It must work! HEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!! Hit the juice! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 59 |
I think that there is a psychological factor involved when taking supplements. With some people they will get good gains from taking supps because their mind tells them the supps are working and as a result they lift more which results in muscle gains. With me I seem to work out better if I know I'm taking a supplement of some kind. |
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