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Cool Novice 
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Would anyone like to comment on the following supplements? Androdiol by OSMO Z-Mass PM by Cytodyne Technologies Androstat Poppers by Bodyonics If anyone has had any good or bad results with these products, please let me know. Thanks in Advance.    | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 331 |
Thumbs up for the Z-mass. The poppers are better than the Androdiol, but has faults too. The poppers allow for complete absorbtion, and it uses 4diol as the main prohormone, which is the best prohormone, but it also has amounts of 5 versions of the prohormones, which are very estrogenic. Some of the forms of the 5 prohormones in the poppers use the same enzyme to convert as the 4-diol, so you may end up with more estrogen, less enzyme to convert the 4-diol into test. The good news is the amounts of 5 diol are small. Its a decision you'll have to make.  | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
Thanks man. I appreciate it. But have you noticed any strength or size gains with either. Or do you know anyone who has? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 59 |
I believe it is the 4 AD versions that are prone to estrogen conversion and not the 5 AD I heard the 5AD absolutely does not convert to estrogen hence making them the superior version. I've used the poppers I think they work well when combined with nor19 (I used medlean transdermal) that worked pretty cool. I wouldnt waste my time with OSMO products I think they are very dated and behind the times. The ZMASS messed with my sleeping pretty bad. Hope this helps. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 331 |
You should see better results with the poppers, since they are cyclodextrin delivery, and enter the blood stream, vs. Androdiol, which is oral and is almost completely degraded in the liver. Also, it is the 5 versions that are estrogenic. They are esterfied versions of the steriod Methandriol, which is an Australian steroid. Do a search on it and you should see. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 723 |
ZMASS IS THE SHIT ITS ONE SUPPLEMENT THAT I WILL NEVER GO WITHOUT. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 240 |
Any side effects to it?  |
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