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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 255 |
Where is a good place online to buy weight gain powders? Also, what brand do you guys recommend?     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 250 |
I don't recommend weight gainers. They are often loaded with calories that are from simple carbohydrates, which will add mass...to your gut. Meal replacements are more nutritous. I recommend investing in a good MRP, like Muscle Meals. Take a look at my MRP post. A good site for buying supplements is www.netrition.com ------------------ -HB- | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 69 |
I agree with HIT about weight gainers. You don't really need them. Stick with protein supplements, or MRP. But one of the cheapest, and has alot of calories is Weiders Mega Mass 4000. It has just about everthing you need. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1290 |
N-Large2 is a great weight gainer in Vanilla. Mixes easily with water, tastes good, etc. I get it from Netrition. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 12 |
Ive had good results with NLarge2 by Prolab... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 369 |
Im gonna throw my 2 cents in this thread because i was about to post something about Nlarge. But first things first......i am a FIRM believer in both MRP's and Weightgainers, but i disagree with Hit & Romeo on how you say that you dont need them. What are your goals? To gain mass in the offseason? Then YES, Weightgainers would be perfect because they have a lot more calories, carbs, protein, etc. NLarge is a great weightgainer, and probably the best in my opinion. MRP's are good too, and if you are not wanting to gain as much fat and take in as much calories, then they may be the better way to go. Most of them are very low in fat and in sugars, yet moderate in calories. That is just my 2 cents though. :) ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 250 |
Hardcore4Evr, You're right, it does depends on your goals. When I bulk I want gain lean muscle mass, I don't want to add an extra 15-25 pounds of body fat in next 2-3 months from taking a weight gainer. Because whatever extra amount of fat I gain, I'll have to eventually lose and I don't want to make myself do any extra work. I'll go 5-10 pounds from my lean bodyweight, but no further. Yeah weight gainers are high in calories, but think of where those calories are coming from. Mostly carbs and some gainers are loaded with too much sugar. If you take in too much carbs whatever your body uses turns to fat. The same goes with protein. You don't need 52 grams of protein per serving. Most people's bodies can't absorb that much protein in one sitting. But it is a good idea to possibly take half a serving. I believe that people should take in a protein blend. Whey protein isn't good taken by itself. Whey protein gets absorbed too fast and about 40% of it is used for energy. I don't see why people say, "the best time to take whey protein is after training." I don't see the logic behind it. Yes, it does get absorbed very quickly, but what good does it do? It's not like taking in simple carbs after a workout. Simple carbs are a sugar (glucose) and they replenish glycogen stores. Whey protein has nothing to do with restoring glycogen. I believe the best protein blend is Whey Concentrate, because it has high amounts of lactoferrin. Lactoferrin is usually damaged when whey protein gets filtered. Whey Isolate lacks a lot of the useful bio fractions. The blend should also consist of Micellar Casein and Egg Protein. Micellar Casein is shown to be more anticatabolic than any other type of casein or whey protein. I believe Muscle Meals is nutritionally complete. It has about 320 calories per serving, 40 grams of protein (Micellar Casein, Whey Concentrate, Egg Albumen and Glutamine Peptide), 12 grams of carbs (2 grams of sugar), 11 grams of EFA's (Essential Fatty Acids), 10 grams of glutamine peptide. It has 1.8 grams of Linoleic Acid, which can burn fat. It is also rich in vitamins and minerals. It is also very high in lactoferrin. I've also noticed that it is very easy to digest. I've tried other MRPs and I usually get sick. ------------------ -HB- | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 793 |
like I have said before... www.proteinfactory.com if it's not on that site It can be found at Safeway!!! if you want calories eat bread, pasta, and other whole foods. Really!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 94 |
quote: If you were to customize a MRP in protein factory that's closest to muscle meal profile, what would that fomular be? thanks bro! [This message has been edited by Boogieman (edited October 19, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 793 |
www.nuclearnutrition.com for the guy who wanted the "complete" muscle protein. their Pro-5 blend is the real real WPI, wheat protein,soy, caseinate,... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 220 |
Theres a ad in the new Flex mag for a weight gainer that has 1200 cal and 35 grams of protien per 16oz. I think I might get it. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
kind of a tall order to fill...i know...but would anyone happen to know of a good weight gainer that has lil or no sugar,no aspartame,and no maltodextrin? appreciate any replies.... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 793 |
weight gainer with no aspartame, maltodextrin, or sugar. it's at www.proteinfactory.com go to the "formulas" section. they have weight gainers there. it is the only customizable site I know of. I'm not joking about Safeway: lot's of good weight gainers there too! LOL | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 335 |
N'Large 2. Has same fat as a MRP. like Myoplex. It just has more Protein & Carbs. and contrary to popular belief u need carbs. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1201 |
If you are going to bulk seriously, you are going to get fat. There is no difference in you body treating excess sugar as would excess fat or even protein. Granted there should be a balance in the macronutrients throughout the day. I would say if you are going to bulk, take the high carb weight gainer with some prudence in your daily balance of macronutrients. The excess sugar is no more inclined to find its way to your gut than excess fats or protein. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 40 |
Hey bro, If you seriously want to gain mass, I suggest Weiders "Victory" series Mega Mass 4000, It gives you 4000 calories a day, 222g of protien a day. But when you start, start your first week with only 1000 caloroes a day, the next week 2000 a day, thebuy the forth week, youbody is use to handeling all those calories. Also, you should realy consider investing in some Glutamine, that will really help you synthasize all that protien yor going to be getting, and help you get a lot moe mass out of it. Good luck in chosing. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 198 |
I was very thinnly built when I first starting lifting. I was about 5'10 at 140lbs. I have tried various suppliments, and weightgainers and I can probably say that NLARGE is the BEST. I mean the absolute best for both the PRICE and the TASTE. All my friends that are trying to bulk up have jumped onto this weightgainer, and I would strongly encourage you to jump on it as well. They have seen some amazing gains, and were really impressed with the TASTE. (Try Vanilla) Anyway, thats my .02. Hunt around on various sites on the net, and find the cheapest. I get mystuff from www.bodybuilding.com, but i hear enutrition.com is good too.... Search around and best of luck Hindustan | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
I personally don't recommend weight gainers because they're too expensive and don't last long. When you see these 5kg mega mass gainers in their paint tins in the shop you think to yourself this is going to last a while. However, it is only when you get home that you discover that you need about to put in about a quarter of the tin to get your 4000 calories or whatever. By the time you've drunk the thing, thats if you haven't broken the blender, you feel like a bloated whale and the only thing you can do is lie down for a few hours because of it. For the rest of the day you don't have too much of an appetite which really defeats the whole purpose of taking it in the first place. What I recommend is taking shakes made up of bananas, milk and icecream between regular meals as they are a lot cheaper and you can consume at regular intervals throughout the day which I think is more beneficial than doing it all it one sitting and feeling like shit for the rest of the day. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 18 |
I have my thoughts on supplements and the crap being sold in white plastic containers with eye catching labels slapped on the side. Granted, I have never tried N-Large2 so I have no basis to comment on that particular product. However, I have tried weight gainers in the past and I have to say that I did gain a lot of weight. However, that weight came in the form of fat evenly distributed across my gut and lower back. The majority of weight gainers are filled withing nothing more than simple carbohydrates and various sugars. You can get the same benefits eating a can of tuna along with a couple of candy bars. If you are looking to gain weight at all cost and don't mind what form it comes in, go for it. Otherwise, put that money towards good quality foods. Do a little work and see how your body responds to various types of foods. What happens if you put more calorie-dense fat into your diet? How about red meat? Lifting is the easy part, nutrition is the difficult area. If it wasn't, everyone whoever picked up a weight would be jacked. Noone said it would be easy -- do the work and you will see the benefits. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 528 |
Pro mass by Dorian Yates approved for a bulk drink. Pro Peptide for protein Or Ravager 5 by Biohazard (same as Pro 5 by nuclear nutrition) | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 44 |
If you are wanting to bulk up with a weight gainer, I would go with NLarge. In my opinion its probably the best out there...I've never used it, but know several who have made nice gains while on it. netrition.com is a good site, check it out. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 81 |
after takin 4 months off ,i used the XXL extreme drinks they sell at the gym i took about 3 a week on days for the first 6 weeks i got back into, they didnt taste bad and the great part about it is that it is around 1070 calroies, but u feel like u are just drinking a cup of juice,if u were going for a world record on how many calories to consume in one meal i think those would help,but i have nevr used any other weight ganiner so i cant compare it to other ones | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 250 |
Sniperwolf, You are correct about gainers being too expensive and being hard to digest, but isn't your protein formula for bulking up almost the same thing as a weight gainer? The protein shake consists of bananas (simple carbs), milk (protein with more simple carbs) and ice cream (another great source of simple carbs). There is a difference between good and bad carbohydrates. You want to avoid simple carbs because they cause an insulin spike which has your body storing more fat. I recommend investing in a good meal replacement. Online you can find meal replacements that cost 1-2 bucks a serving. To be honest, that is not really expensive. It's actually cheaper than a meal at Taco Bell. A good meal replacement should have some EFAs, low-moderate amounts of carb and a protein blend. In my opinion protein blends are better than whey protein. Whey protein is known for its rapid rate of absorption, the problem is that whey is taken in so fast that 40% of it is used as energy instead of stored protein. Having fast digesting proteins (whey) and slow digesting proteins (casein) would be better. Whey is known to be anabolic and research has shown that a specific type of casein has been found to be more anticatabolic than any other type of casein. It is called Micellar Casein. Very few supplement companies use Micellar Casein. I can name three: Muscle Link, GEN and Dorian Yates Approved. I recommend going to www.netrition.com and trying a box of Muscle Link's MRP (Muscle Meals). It's a pretty good product and Netrition has the cheapest price for it. Each serving has 11 grams of EFAs, 12 grams of carbs, 40 grams of a protein blend and 10 grams of glutamine peptides. You can get a box of 20 for 36 bucks. Not that expensive. Better than paying 50-60 bucks at GNC on a MRP. ------------------ Check out http://pub30.ezboard.com/bhitsgymofbodybuilding -HB- [This message has been edited by HIT Bodybuilder (edited December 16, 2000).] | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 7 |
If you're curious gentlemen, here is a little known recipe for making Met-Rx. It is simple, easy, and pretty much tells you how cheap this stuff really should be selling for. Dehydrated Milk Powder Of course, a better weight gainer would be the following. Visit proteinfactory.com and pick up some whey protein concentrate or isolate if you're not very frugal (but then, who isn't). Mix it with Fat free Jello pudding. Add in the vitamin mineral tab crushed up between two spoons. Then, add a 5-gram dose of Creatine and/or Glutamine if you happen to have some handy. This product is quite a bit cheaper than Phosphagain, and superior in quality. Plus, you won't be able to beat the price, or the taste. Jello pudding is unbelievable! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 50 |
Has anyone tried Muscle milk? Its by Cytosport, its kind of a twist on the old weight gain shakes, it has 32gms of protien, 12 gms of carbs and heres the thing..18 gms of fat!! Its suppose to be mostly MCTs and healthy fats be damn thats a lot! It has some kind of creatine in there too. I was thinking of throwing it in my next cycle instead of the usual nlarge2. Fill me in guys. Im going to post this on the anabolic board and see what every has to say. Tulk311 | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 453 |
just wondering if Maltodextrin is considered a simple carb. Or is it just sugar? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 81 |
malto dextrin is considered a complex carb, read more about complex carbs versus simple carbs in the topic..densest source of complex carbs? ,cockdezl lays down some good points |
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