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 One meal for mass?
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vlaovic Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 187) |
posted August 03, 2000 03:44 PM
  
Does anyone have any thoughts on using a Warrior-type diet to gain muscle, rather than get cut? Would increasing calories while sticking to the same principles achieve this, or does the hormonal melieu resulting from such a diet make mass gains impossible? IP: Logged |
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qball Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted August 03, 2000 04:12 PM
I think the ideal for mass would be two meals. A large breakfeast, followed by another power meal after the workout. The rest of the day just drink water and tea. I was planning on experimenting with such an approach. BKFST after workout Drive home, I am aiming for 1000 - 1200 calories per meal. Dinner would be around 7-8 pm, bedtime around 11. On days I dont workout, I will still eat the second meal, but I wont have the grape juice whey drink. IP: Logged |
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vlaovic Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 187) |
posted August 03, 2000 04:43 PM
Interesting. Do you think a more structured, low-GI breakfast (large though!) might work better? What would you do on cardio days? IP: Logged |
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qball Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted August 03, 2000 05:05 PM
I think bkfst can be wide open in terms of carbs. I find for myself that in the morning I can tolerate much higher GI than throughout the day. On cardio days, I would still eat bkfst 1 hour after monring workout and dinner. Just leave of the protein/carb drink and reserve this for only after workouts. IP: Logged |
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qball Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted August 03, 2000 05:05 PM
I think bkfst can be wide open in terms of carbs. I find for myself that in the morning I can tolerate much higher GI than throughout the day. On cardio days, I would still eat bkfst 1 hour after monring workout and dinner. Just leave of the protein/carb drink and reserve this for only after weight workouts. IP: Logged |
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vlaovic Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 187) |
posted August 04, 2000 12:06 AM
Personally, I cannot work out on a stomach full of carbs - especially ones that are high GI and make my blood sugar go berzerk. IP: Logged |
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madmitch Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted August 04, 2000 07:35 AM
Hi Guy's I have just read the anamailbolics post on the Ironman site and It is exactly how I have been thinking lately. The supplement companies control the pro bodybuilders so they get them to tell Jo public to eat 8 meals per day and take 3 or 4 of them as protein shakes. Mean while the only thing that has been preventing them from getting stupidly fat on this method of dieting is the ever increasing amounts of GH, testosterone, clenbuterol and T3 that these pro's are taking. Little secret here, I heard that a certain massive pro who has since retired was using 72 iu's of GH per day to lean out for the olympia. Hmmm I wonder why? IP: Logged |
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vlaovic Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 187) |
posted August 04, 2000 08:05 AM
I tend to think this one pro is more of a "rule" than an "exception". The average lifter (i.e. you me and most people on these boeards) should not rely on the muscle mags for information on how to formulate a diet or routine. As with most media outlets, there is simply too much corporate interest for an of these publications to be remotely objective. If anyone disagrees, I challange them to show me a mainstream muscle mag with more pages of articles than advertisements. We have to rely on objective sources, most of which are on the web. People like Eric Hesse, Will Brink, Lyle McDonald, etc. are real people, and should be the ones we look to for advice and new theories that WORK. [This message has been edited by vlaovic (edited August 04, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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cockdezl Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 248) |
posted August 06, 2000 01:39 PM
What Animal does not know or doesn't understand is that his idea on meal planning (few vs. many) has been studied by science. The idea of several meals for fat loss has been validated many times over. He likes to argue that several meals will keep insulin levels raised which will prevent lipolysis, but he must not understand that insulin has a threshold level that it must reach for prevention of lipolysis and fat accrual. Skeletal muscle has a higher sensitivity for insulin than adipocytes, and several small meals has been shown to lower circulating insulin levels, while large meals increases insulin levels. Will his diet work? Sure. We know that most diets work if one sticks with them and cuts calories, but I disagree with his rational and arrogance. P.S. For those who do not know, Animal believes that ketogenic diets do not work. I think his debate was over on the Underground Supplements board or Anabolex board. Go do a search if you want a good laugh. IP: Logged |
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vlaovic Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 187) |
posted August 06, 2000 09:35 PM
I feel that the best way to formulate a diet for oneself is to take bits and pieces of information from people with sound theories, and put together whatever works for you. I disagree with following any one source of information to the letter; one must experiment on their own to see what works. Animal has some good ideas and I like his diet a lot, but he'll never convnince me ketogenic dieting (in the context of a CKD or TKD) is anything but highly effective when done properly and with discipline. IP: Logged |
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