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lpw
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 11)
posted August 02, 2000 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lpw   Click Here to Email lpw     Edit/Delete Message
I've been trying to get lean with pretty disasterous results. I've gone from 225 to 217 in 4 wks, but my bf% has remained exactly the same!

My diet:
273g protien, 262 g carbs, 45 g fat (thats 43%, 41%, 16% if my math is right) = approx. 2500 cal.

My workout:
Mon. shoulders, back
Tues. chest
Thurs. bis, tris
Fri. legs
cardio: 30 minutes 2-3x/week
abs 3x/wk

I do about 9-12 sets per body part , in the 12-8 rep range.

Am I overtraining? Do I need to reduce carbs? reduce fat? Increase cardio?

Please help!
thanks.

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pinge
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 39)
posted August 02, 2000 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pinge   Click Here to Email pinge     Edit/Delete Message
Ican see rught now what your doing wrong, first off your ratio should be 60%-protein, 25%-carbs, and 15%-fat, you are eating weigh too many carbs and fat, also do not eat any carbs past 3:00 o'clock and do 1 hour cardio each morning on an empty stomach 5 days a week. That should solve the problem rightnow it looks like your losing muscle if this doesn't work try a keto diet!!!!!

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adawg78
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted August 02, 2000 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for adawg78   Click Here to Email adawg78     Edit/Delete Message
sorry, but i'm definitely going to have to disagree with pinge. that is the opposite of what he wants to do.

if you do not want to go on a straight keto diet, then

1) pick up a thermo and supplement with glutamine

2) keep your carbs where they are...about 40%, eating most of them b4 6pm

and most importantly...

3) drop the protein by at least 50 grams and substitute fat for those calories

when people go on diets they get in the habit of staying away from fat. this is a VERY bad idea. when your body has hardly any fat coming in, it's going to hoard all the fat it has stored, which is the opposite of what you want. if you eat 60% of your cals from protein, half of that is going to be useless and stored as fat.

like i said, your carb intake looks reasonable, as does your training and cardio (don't do more than 2 hours/week). basically drop the protein, up the fat a little, and get a thermo agent and you should be fine.

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vlaovic
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted August 02, 2000 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vlaovic   Click Here to Email vlaovic     Edit/Delete Message
It gets worse than that! Storing the extra protein as fat would probably be the best-case scenario. At worst, your body will learn to use it as fuel in the absence of other nutrients, and you won't be able to eat enough to make gains in the future, or keep your mass while dieting. Carbs and fat are for energy, not protein.

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lpw
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 02, 2000 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lpw   Click Here to Email lpw     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for the info. I'll try replacing the protien with fat. This leads me to another question about different types of fat:
Does it matter what *kind* of fat I eat or is it just the total amount?

thanks.
lp

[This message has been edited by lpw (edited August 02, 2000).]

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adawg78
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted August 02, 2000 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adawg78   Click Here to Email adawg78     Edit/Delete Message
nevermind haha

[This message has been edited by adawg78 (edited August 02, 2000).]

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lpw
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 02, 2000 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lpw   Click Here to Email lpw     Edit/Delete Message
adawg,
nevermind what???
do you mean any kind of fat is ok?

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vlaovic
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted August 02, 2000 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vlaovic   Click Here to Email vlaovic     Edit/Delete Message
Try to get essential fatty acids from flax, hemp, Udo's or other such oils. Also, try to get some saturated fat to keep testosterone up from eggs and lean red meat, or milk.

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adawg78
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted August 03, 2000 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for adawg78   Click Here to Email adawg78     Edit/Delete Message
sorry...i meant nevermind cuz originally you typed your reply backwards (you said replace fat with protein) and i was just making sure you knew it was the other way around, and then you changed it so i was like ok nevermind haha.

sounds like you're good to go. definitely add some flax seed oil in your diet.

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lpw
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 03, 2000 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lpw   Click Here to Email lpw     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks you guys. I'll up the fat, include some flax seed oil and more egg yolks, and hopefully start seeing some results!

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vlaovic
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted August 03, 2000 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vlaovic   Click Here to Email vlaovic     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sure doing this will help, so best of luck.

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