posted July 28, 2000 12:07 AM            

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Dnp is worse than crystal, crack cocaine or heroin. Steroids are just as bad as steet drugs. I had a horrid experiance with it. Coming off of and T3 I had to check myself in to the hospital. You all think steroids are healthy. Steroids are drugs. Most of you are addicts beating your mind and soul up just to look healthy and be strong. I think i'll take my brains over my brawn and just eat healthy and workout and enjoy a balanced life insted of worrying about how beautiful I look.

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posted July 28, 2000 01:03 AM            

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i feel a war is ahead,im goin to shine my armor..
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posted July 28, 2000 08:14 AM            

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I agrre, there are just to many risks. They are psycologically adicting. You never hear of the bad stuff in these circles.

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posted July 28, 2000 11:54 AM         

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Well, I want to hear about it. How much T3 did you hit, and what fucked you up so bad that you had to check into a hospital? I am on the stuff right now, and I would like to hear what happened to you.

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posted July 28, 2000 05:58 PM            

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DNP is more catabolic than cortisol! Not only on muscle tissue, but other organs as well. Some guys will shoot up with anything in order to get fast results. If you're not a competitive bodybuilder, what's the point of having 2% Bodyfat?
I'll stay out of the steroid argument, there's way too many juiceheads on these boards too fight with...

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posted July 28, 2000 11:12 PM            

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i agree recome if you dont compete whats the point of a super low bf%.it makes no sense,as long as im low like 8-9 im happy.
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posted July 28, 2000 11:35 PM            

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Yeah, you're probably right. 8-9 is actually better for you than bellow 5%, but it's nice to see the muscle you've built looking its best once in a while, even if you don't compete (maybe it's one of those self-esteem things, but I feel better being at 5% or less at least once or twice a year).

[This message has been edited by vlaovic (edited July 28, 2000).]

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posted July 28, 2000 11:58 PM            

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bf is really irrelevent everyones diffrent my 9% may look like your 5% not every one has abs at 9%..
for me 8% is amazing my abs are deep where i can stick quarters in them but my brother needs to be 9% to just see his abs slightly..
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posted July 29, 2000 08:46 PM            

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I can't see my damn abs until I'm 4-6%, and even then, they ain't that great (quite possibly my worst body part). If you can see yours at 8%, don't even try for 5% cause there's really no point - it'll just hold back your mass gains. Just goes to show how different people have different needs, goals and genetic potential.

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posted August 06, 2000 02:27 PM         

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CHEECH, please elaborate on your experience, since generalized statements have little relevance. I have used T3, steroids, and DNP throughout my life and have never had any problems. I did not like the DNP experience for the little fat lost, as it is very easy to regain, but it did not cause any problems.

Explain why I have had no problems (and many others) while you have had life threatening problems.

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