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nobu
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
hey nobu here, you were kind enough to give me some pionters on my mass diet. you told me to increase my carb intake. i was wondering if there was a specific role that carbs play in the muscle building process; i only know that it is used for energy and to maintain glucose, but is there something else i should know about the importance of carbs?

if i eat more carbs i guess i will have to up my cardio to balence things out for a bit because my ody has been used to this diet for about a month. anyways thanks!

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brumans
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
hey, i always talk to MrMuscle on ICQ, heres what he told me bout carbs.. he'll probably reply later with more details though.. but heres what he told me

"Without carbs your done for..thats the eenrgy thats what makes your body able to take up the protein you need"

so basiccly he said, without carbs, you would gain no muscle. Carbs help protein turn into muscle. he also said you should have about 10% more carbs then protein.

well.. its not that much but like i said he can tell you more about it later

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nobu
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posted June 15, 2000 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
thanks bruman!

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nobu
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
man, im a guy with a small appetite its going to be tuff trying to consume all that carb when im not hungry, my pro. intake out weighs my carb intake 2 to 1. and im consuming about 200g of pro.

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brumans
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
no problem, i'm going to sleep now though.. i havent been getting enough lately.. so i plan on getting at least 10 hrs tonight.. i'm setting my alarm for 9 am.. i already made a list of what i'm gonna have.. it has
243.5 carbs, 160.5 protein, 28 grams of fat.. how does that sound.. good, bad? i'll stay on till 10:30 i guess..

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brumans
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
also, my stomach feels like crap.. i think it was cuz of the can of tuna i just had.. anyone know how to make tuna better w/out adding carbs? (i usually have tuna before i go to sleep.. and i dont want carbs.. is 4oz tuna good before going to sleep..?)

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decadon
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 15, 2000 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for decadon     Edit/Delete Message
I use a little greek dressing...0.65 grams of carbs per serving and I believe the oil is olive and soybean oil...10:90 ratio...only 1.4 saturated fat per serving(TBSP)....THe stuff separates easy and a teaspoon goes a long way with CHUNK WHITE TUNA....I think that chunk light tuna tastes like cat ass...never really had cat ass...but I imagine it tastes like chunk light tuna....give it a try...

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MrMuscle
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 16, 2000 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrMuscle   Click Here to Email MrMuscle     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70512967
ah yes...the everlasting carb issue...how much, when and how. its all a bunch of crap isnt it..

in my experience carbs is everything. check out my previously diet at http://home.sol.no/~mrmuscle/diet.htm
then check out my dieting down diet: http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000237.html

tell me what you see?

gaining mass takes a LOT of carbs...you also see that my fat intake is all screwed up on my mass diet...so what you need to do, is get those carbs up...a good calorie split is 40%from carbs, 30% from protein and 30% from fat.


and you are on a mass gaining diet..so DONT up your cardio...then you will only loose the amount of muscles you are building up..excpect to put on some fat as well..that cant be avoided on mass gaining diets.

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"Pain, is only weakness leaving your body"

"...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica

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nobu
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 16, 2000 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
man thats alot of cals hopr i can handle it.. thanks Mr. Muscle i really appreciate your help!

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MrMuscle
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted June 17, 2000 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrMuscle   Click Here to Email MrMuscle     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70512967
Just remember not to try to emulate my diet, you have to find out what YOU need, thats the only way you will learn how your body reacts..

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"Pain, is only weakness leaving your body"

"...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica

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Sight1
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 17, 2000 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sight1   Click Here to Email Sight1     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, just eat foods that are high in starch and carbs. They will help you pack on some mass. Reduce your cardio, and pump the iron harder. Don't worry about definition during a mass cycle.

Carbs are fuel for muscle growth. Increasing these will help a lot with size and strength. Just don't eat a lot of crap food or fatty shit.

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