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BAMF
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 14, 2000 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BAMF   Click Here to Email BAMF     Edit/Delete Message
HOW MUCH CREATINE SHOULD I TAKE A DAY?

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adawg78
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posted June 14, 2000 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adawg78   Click Here to Email adawg78     Edit/Delete Message
7500

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StevieD
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posted June 14, 2000 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StevieD     Edit/Delete Message
5 grams

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Amp
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posted June 14, 2000 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amp     Edit/Delete Message
I believe everyone is different for what they need to maintain. If I take anything less than 10 grams a day my muscles don't stay sufficiently loaded. The best time to take it is right after your workout with dextrose or some type of non citric juice (grape is good).

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brumans
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posted June 14, 2000 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
yea, it all depends on your height and weight, and if your loading on it or not..

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nobu
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posted June 14, 2000 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
usually your supposed to load for the first week, about 30 grams a day broken into 5-6 servings, take creatine with dextrol for best results. after your loading week, about 5-10 grams a day should do it. note that creatine supposed to make you look bloated so relax when you start to inflate. theres a supplement out there that prevents creatine smoothing it starts with a "T" and is a pretty lengthy name sorry i cant remember it, but its supposed to make you look really cut and huge at the same time by sucking access water out over you body. hopes this helps.

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brumans
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posted June 15, 2000 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
you cant remember anything can you.. "Q" .. "T"..lol

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nobu
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posted June 15, 2000 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
pretty funny bruman, sure ive got a bad memory, but i could find out in a second if a wanted too, but if it dosent concern me, i usually dont go through the trouble of getting educated on it.

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eDIESEL
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posted June 16, 2000 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eDIESEL     Edit/Delete Message
nobu,
bro would mind researching what the name of that supplement that helps with the water retention from ceatine?i'm on a keto diet and i'll be taking creatine/glutamine on the days where i eat carbs and i don't want too much water retained because i'm also on a cutting cycle of winny/eq/halo...thnx in advance..

also, at 5'7", 180lbs and 11%BF, how much creatine should i be taking on a maintenance phase?

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Pamela
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posted June 17, 2000 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pamela     Edit/Delete Message
Since you guys are on the Creatine subject, I was wondering about taking Creatine and Fat Burners together?? I take the Fat Burners first thing in the morning and do a little of cardio. Then I have my 1st breakfast, And then I take the Creatine and go and do my workout. What do you think of that?????
Any information is appriciated!! Thanks

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MrMuscle
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posted June 17, 2000 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrMuscle   Click Here to Email MrMuscle     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70512967
Nobu: take 5 grams before your workout then 5 grams after...dont do the loading phase, just a bunch of poop.


Pamela: Ive alwaysed belived that doing Creatine and fat burnes togheter kinda negates the purpose of fat burners. you want to shed fat, and shed water right? well, creatine makes you hold MORE water...so my 2 braincells tells me not to do it.i dont know if ive understood it correctly though..ive never gotten a straight answere from anybody about it..but maybe we will this time

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Blow
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posted June 17, 2000 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blow     Edit/Delete Message
I also heard loading is a bunch of bull. Your body can only use so much, and what it doesnt use goes to your kidney's. So when your loading, your just wasting creatine.

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thermo
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posted June 20, 2000 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thermo     Edit/Delete Message
i usually take a 5 gr scoop pre workout and a 5 gr scoop post workout -and 10 gr on off days --drink lots of water--but about that avoiding citrus deal--i heard thats all bull shit .... anyone wanna comment on it? is it true?

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BigKat56
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posted June 20, 2000 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigKat56   Click Here to Email BigKat56     Edit/Delete Message
This is what I have been told by Rick Waterson the Head strength coach from the Tennessee Titans and Head of Advocare's R&D department. He has found that loading isn't essential, but does get your levels up a little quicker. He also believes that you should use for a maintanence level about 10% of your lean body mass. So if you are a 225 individual with 15% body fat you should take 19.125g of creatine a day. The big thing that he suggests is that you should try and take multiple does a day. Your big does should be around an hour before working out (5g) and after your workout (another 5g). The rest should be administered throughout the day at 2g servings. He has found this to work really well with his athelets and I have personally tried his formula and it really works. The only thing is he has never tried his formula on body builders, only on football players. I'm not saying it won't work, but I used it when I played college ball with his products. I'm not trying to push Advocare for body building because they are geared towards sports and they are really damn expensive. Around $250 and only around 100g of protein in a day, but they are loaded with aminos. Enough of me babling. Just stuff that I have used.

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POW
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posted June 21, 2000 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for POW   Click Here to Email POW     Edit/Delete Message
BigKat

I take 5 in the morning,5 at lunch time 5 prework out and 5 after. This seems to work for me but we are all different.

Your surgestion of 2mg intervalls seems like the money saving option.

POW

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BLONDBLDR
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posted June 21, 2000 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BLONDBLDR   Click Here to Email BLONDBLDR     Edit/Delete Message
NOBU AND THE REST OF YOU GUYS, THE T NAME THAT REDUCES WATER WATER RETENTION IS CALLED TARAXATONE. IT BY CYTODYNE TECHNOLOGIES AND YOU CAN GET IT PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE. IT IS EXPENSIVE THOUGH, ABOUT 25.00 THE DOSAGE IS USUALLY 3 AM AND 3 MORE AFTERNOON. I USE THES ALOT BEFORE MY MENSTRUAL CYCLE. SHARING TOO MUCH? ANYWAY GOOD LUCK. OH MAKE SURE YOUR ALWAYS CLOSE TO A BATHROOM!

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warmeister
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posted June 21, 2000 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for warmeister   Click Here to Email warmeister     Edit/Delete Message
I take ~20gs a day
in the morning
at lunch
pre workout
post workout
befor bed
is this enough for someone weighing 240-250lb

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nobu
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posted June 21, 2000 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
Mr. Muscle; so a loading stage is not nessesary? does it have the same effect? i know you know hell of alot more then me so im going to take you word for it, im not going to load anymore. 5g before and after, got it! thanks Mr.Muscle as always!

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BigKat56
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posted June 22, 2000 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigKat56   Click Here to Email BigKat56     Edit/Delete Message
One reason why Dr. Waterson is big on the 2g dose is because in smaller does your body will absorb more of what you take. he feels that more, smaller does does better that a few big does thru the day. Makes sense because you think about it, when you take creatine your urine starts to change colors and he has done tests that show you piss out what your body does not absorb hence wasting money.

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