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brumans
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 13, 2000 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
I know oatmeal is, but what else?? I know wheat bread is sorta bad for it because of the glucose.. can someone please tell me what is some good grain items most bodybuilders consume besides oatmeal?

thanks...
brian

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MrMuscle
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posted June 13, 2000 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrMuscle   Click Here to Email MrMuscle     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70512967
hmm..oatmeal, oatbran...hmm...you got me..

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brumans
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posted June 13, 2000 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
hm.. anyone else know?

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buckydingdong
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posted June 13, 2000 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for buckydingdong   Click Here to Email buckydingdong     Edit/Delete Message
brown rice, wild rice, barley, rye, you can find all sorts of whole grains at most large grocery stores, usually in the health food sections. They cook up like regular rice, sort of...a bit more texture and they usually taste better.

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brumans
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posted June 13, 2000 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
rye bread.. hm.. so pretty much any Whole Wheat items are good.. whole wheat foods with out glucose.. anyway speaking of glucose, anyone know why its bad for you?

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nobu
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posted June 13, 2000 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
glucose ia not bad for you, too much of it is. if your blood glucose drops to slow, coma results. you want to chose grains with low GI's because depending on what you eat, different foods spike insulin levels differently, if it raises insulin too high you get a major drive to eat more. anyways low GI grains are usually very dense and sometimes dark like. such as oatmeal, oatbran, dense dark rye, wheat germ. steer clear of white bread, the glycemic level is higher than glucose itself (101).theres a really great grain out there that starts with a "Q" i cant remember the name, but it actually contains essential amino acids!

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posted June 13, 2000 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ---==\S/==---   Click Here to Email ---==\S/==---     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 35410287
All true but just remember to stay away from the processed stuff, i was going to ask a question similar to this earlier but oh well, i stick to brown rice and oatmeal. I made a big mistake of keeping breads(w.w. breads bagels etc) in my mass diet i gained alot from that stuff this time around its all pure good foods.

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brumans
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posted June 13, 2000 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
hmm... sounds good nobu, let me know if anyone thinks of that bread that starts with Q.. i'll try to look into it too..
i'll get back to you on if i find it..

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buckydingdong
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posted June 14, 2000 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for buckydingdong   Click Here to Email buckydingdong     Edit/Delete Message
the one that starts with a "q" I believe is Quintoa.

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nobu
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posted June 14, 2000 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
hey bruman i found out what that grain was that i was talking of earlier, herre is some in depth info on the so called "miracle grain of the future"

Quinoa : [KEEN-wah] Although quinoa is new to the American market, it was a staple of the ancient Incas, who called it "the mother grain." To this day it's an important food in South American cuisine. Hailed as the "supergrain of the future," quinoa contains more protein than any other grain. It's considered a complete protein because it contains all eight essential amino acids. Quinoa is also higher in unsaturated fats and lower in carbohydrates than most grains, and it provides a rich and balanced source of vital nutrients. Tiny and bead-shaped, the ivory-colored quinoa cooks like rice (taking half the time of regular rice) and expands to four times its original volume. Its flavor is delicate, almost bland, and has been compared to that of couscous. Quinoa is lighter than but can be used in any way suitable for rice--as part of a main dish, a side dish, in soups, in salads and even in puddings. It's available packaged as a grain, ground into flour and in several forms of pasta. Quinoa can be found in most health-food stores and some supermarkets.

holy shit man! i didn't know it contained all the essential amino acids. i'm going to look into this shit, it better be available in Canada. anyways bruman there you go!

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brumans
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posted June 14, 2000 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
sounds totally sweet.. i'm gonna try and pick some up before sat. if i can find em.. i'm gonna look more into it also..

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brumans
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posted June 14, 2000 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
hey, found lots more on it!!!

go to http://www.quinoa.com !!!!!!!

looks to me like its grown in canada, so your in luck

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Quinoa on the Canadian Prairies

Quinoa (Keen' wa) has been called "the grain of the gods", a term that is befitting this wondrous little seed. Quinoa (Chenopodium quinoa Willd.) is an annual herb from the Andes Mountains of South America, where it has been cultivated, for 3000 years and was a staple of the Inca Empire. The Inca's considered it a "gift from the gods", in that it helped to sustain and nourish their peoples through the generations. It is a high protein, gluten free grain and a good source of fibre, complex carbohydrates and vitamins. Quinoa provides people, especially with gluten intolerance's, a nutritional, economical, easy to prepare, flavorful food source.

Quinoa, is not an actual grain for, it does not belong to the grass family but, is a broad leaf plant and a close relative of lamb's quarters. Quinoa as a plant grows 3 - 7 feet high and produces a small, flat, circular-shaped seed. Varieties have been adapted which grow well on the prairies and have enabled local farmers to grow an alternative food source. Currently all Quinoa is grown organically (OCIA Certified) or naturally, without pesticides.

The ancient Incas called Quinoa the "mother grain". The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization observes that Quinoa is closer to the ideal protein balance than any other common grain, being at least equal to milk in protein quality. Quinoa's nutritional profile has higher levels of energy, calcium, phosphorus, iron, fibre and B-Vitamins than barley, oats, rice, corn, or wheat. Quinoa has a nutritionally attractive amino acid balance, being exceptionally high in lysine. Lysine is considered to be deficient in most cereal grains, making their protein profile incomplete.

Quinoa has a natural bitter seed coating or saponin, which encases the seed and must be removed before consuming. This coating has been traditionally removed by vigorous washing with water. The varieties that are grown on the prairies have a high saponin content and this washing is even more of a concern. Northern Quinoa Corporation has developed a process which removes the bitter coating or saponin that coats the quinoa seed. This process involves both mechanical dehulling and a rapid wash-dry process. The result is a consumer friendly, easy to prepare, versatile, whole food.

The flavour of Norquin Brand "Golden Quinoa", has been described as mild and slightly "nutty" and is versatile in that it may be prepared in minutes as a side dish, breakfast cereal or combined with other ingredients for a hearty main course. Quinoa may also be included in soups, salads and desserts or ground and used as a flour. In many cases Quinoa flour may be substituted for rice flour in favorite recipes. Flour is available in bulk quantities by order only.

"Golden Quinoa" is economical as it is a whole food grain and minimally processed under careful control. The seed is grown on the Canadian prairies by local farmers, many of them with Certified Organic farming operations. The plants thrive in our northern environment, with clean air, pure water, and the warming prairie sunshine.

We encourage you to try Northern Quinoa's "Golden Quinoa" soon and find out for yourself why it has been referred to as the "grain of the gods" We hope that you will enjoy natures "gift" as much as we do.

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brumans
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posted June 14, 2000 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
yup, looks great to me, check out the nutritional information if you didnt already

15.4 grams of protein for 1 piece of bread... cool!
http://www.quinoa.com/images/nutri.jpg

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nobu
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posted June 14, 2000 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
thanks bruman, shit! thats alot of info, i'm looking in it right now!

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brumans
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posted June 14, 2000 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
yea, hopefully i can find it.. any ideas where they might sell it here in the states?

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brumans
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posted June 14, 2000 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
this looks like it has more basic info on it though.. i just found it
http://waltonfeed.com/quinoa.html

i dunno if the other site has it, i didnt really check there that long

heres a sample from the address above

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Quinoa is a small seed that in size, shape, and color looks like a cross between sesame seed and millet. It is disk shaped with a flattened or depressed equatorial band around it�s periphery. It is usually a pale yellow color but some species may vary from almost white through pink, orange, or red to purple and black. Quinoa is not a true cereal grain but is technically a fruit of the Chenopodium family. Chenopodium plants have characteristic leaves shaped like a goose foot. The genus also includes our common weed, lamb�s quarters. Quinoa is an annual herb that grows from three to six feet high, and like millet its seeds are in large clusters at the end of the stalk.

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anyway, all well i'm done looking into it.. i'll just look at the grocery store when I can ..and if they dont have it.. all well.. but if they do.. i'm getting me some

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brumans
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posted June 14, 2000 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
hmm.. i remember something.. let me check into this...

Quinoa is a herb right.. well i remember this one thing from www.sale.com it said someplace had 50% off all herbs and free shipping... i'm looking into it now..

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nobu
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posted June 14, 2000 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
too quick for me!

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brumans
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posted June 14, 2000 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
nope.. dont have it.. so.. nevermind

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nobu
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posted June 14, 2000 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
man! there so much shit to this product. it looks like it comes in more than one form; flour, rice, different colours; gold, brown... i can't seem to find the nutritional value for a serving worth of Quinoa, it seems like the nutritional picture you posted is like an econamy size portion, over 4000 cals?

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brumans
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posted June 14, 2000 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brumans   Click Here to Email brumans     Edit/Delete Message
yea, i know 4500 calories.. that does sound pretty weird..

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nobu
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posted June 14, 2000 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nobu   Click Here to Email nobu     Edit/Delete Message
i wonder if this product is known to the bb. world, im sure some have herd of it but did not go public. it is pretty recently that Flax seed oil got its recognition in many muscle mags, saying it is an anti-fat and it actually helps burn bad fat. who knew a fat could actually help you cut.

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