posted June 11, 2000 01:24 PM            

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hi i'm taking xenadrine right now. problem is i can only take in the morning, after 12noon if i even take 1 pill i can't go to sleep at night. any suggestions on what else i can use? yohimbe? others? or what was the product that worked best for you? and post results if any please.

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posted June 12, 2000 03:18 PM         

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i have use hydroxycut and have gotten noticeable results from it and never had trouble gettin to sleep and i would take it morning,noon and nite

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posted June 13, 2000 01:27 AM            

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Try Adipokinetix or MD 6

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posted June 13, 2000 01:44 PM            

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I use Thermo-cuts by Optimum Nutrition. I tried Xan. but didn't have good results. Thermo-cuts work great & has the same stuff in it as Hydroxy cut but at almost half the price.

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posted June 13, 2000 03:32 PM            

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Guys all those other products are the same damn things. Look at there ingredients and ratios of stimulants. Bro, if you are having problems sleeping from the xenadrine then all the other stimulant type products will keep you up too. Do it with your diet and you'll do fine. Use your xenadrine in the morning to get your metabolism kicking. Train, do your cardio and cut your carbs out after about 3pm. Go to lean protein sources for the rest of the day and you will see good results. I have done this periodically with clients who just react too strongly to the eca stacks and they make very good progress.

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posted June 14, 2000 12:53 PM            

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Hands up this is the all and all break down.

short term: clebutarol

long term: ECA

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posted June 14, 2000 03:53 PM         

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Xenadrine worked pretty good for me but Adipokinetix was a little better and I didn't experience as much jitters. I tried MD6 but it made me sick and didn't work very good plus its a lot more expensive.

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posted June 15, 2000 08:46 AM            

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This may sound like a stupid question but, I've seen alot of people mention E/C/A stacks.What the hell is it all about? Thanks

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posted June 15, 2000 08:54 AM            

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E/C/A = ephedrine/caffeine/aspirin

to put it simply, this stack (combination) raises metabolism and increases the chance of using fat for fuel

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posted June 15, 2000 11:37 AM            

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Adawg is right that the E/C/A best stack for fat burner. But I used Hydroxycut before and it works I took 4 pills 3 times a day. I got results.

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posted June 26, 2000 12:51 PM            

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I'v used adipok, lipok,ripped fuil, hydroxycut, & md6. MD6 did nothing for me , gave me a headache. The adipok and hydroxycut did the best ,so did the lipoK.
Don't take them after 6pm, you'll be up all night!

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posted June 26, 2000 03:29 PM            

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Adawg I have to agree about the e/c/a being good. I'm also a big beliver in lopokinetix, and adipok sometimes. both provide good results for the money put out. They hype me up & increase my metabalism.

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posted June 27, 2000 12:27 PM            

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sheila if you liked the adipo & it didn't give you the jitters try the lipokentix it works a little better with no more side affects than adipoKinetix.

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posted June 28, 2000 11:34 PM            

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Ephedrine and caffeine and other herbal stacks only work well in suppressing your appetite. They only cause 4 lb greater fat loss a month due to the stimulation(reported on 60 min). If you are active as well in the gym, plan your meals a day in advance you can see the same results. Sleep deprivation will eat away at your muscle. If you want a substance that gives true fat loss try T3/DNP/Diet/Cardio/Will Power. I�ve been up before on a KCD diet going crazy staring at the wall on a homemade ECA stack.

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posted June 29, 2000 02:02 AM            

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Hey I heard that the canadian version of Hydroxycut doesn't carry ephedrine, is this true??Have any of you guys tried Thermalean???If so, what do you think??

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posted July 10, 2000 10:27 AM            

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I'v heard people talking about lipokenetix in the gym. Is it worth trying and is it better than most other fat burners?

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posted July 10, 2000 01:01 PM            

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Tricana if you can get it on top of cutting your carbs anywhere from 3 to 5 at night. Tricana gives me no jitters or insomnia at all. Another alternative is Syntax's Triax II.

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posted July 11, 2000 02:40 AM            

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sex...lots and lots of sex

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posted July 11, 2000 02:41 AM            

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really...try some yellowjackets...ask for them at a gas station...they'll rev you up, burn some fat, and give you great workouts

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posted July 11, 2000 10:11 AM            

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Yes, sex..sex...and more sex is a good fat burner, especially if its with another person......uh..uh..uh...
I like to take norephedrine yohimbine ans caffine in my adipokenetics. then I switch it off with a e/c/a cycle. works great. Keeps the body guessing.

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posted August 06, 2000 03:24 PM         

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"Ephedrine and caffeine and other herbal stacks only work well in suppressing your appetite. They only cause 4 lb greater fat loss a month due to the stimulation(reported on 60 min)."

First, never ever use TV as a source of information. 60 Minutes, 20/20, Dateline, etc. is sensationalism, not information.

Next, the original studies showed that the EC users lost around the same amount of weight as the control group, BUT when body composition was checked, the EC group preserved significantly more LBM than the control. EC combos do decrease appetite, but they also increase fatty acid utilization, which spares muscle loss and they increase metabolic rate slighty.

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posted August 06, 2000 04:39 PM         

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What's in the lipo- and adipokinetix? Are they just another eca? Are they addictive? I'm trying to get off thermadrene. It works, but I'm a fucking junkie now.

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posted August 06, 2000 09:06 PM            

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cock d's right. ECA works wonders if you are active when taken before a workout, especially cardio. By mobolizing fatty acids, it allows them to be used for energy, therby allowing you to burn more fat. I would not trust any studies or goofy-ass news shows - I would try it and see if it works for ME, not some fat slob in a cheesy so-called scientific study who besides ephedrine and caffeine, is also stacking french fries and Pepsi.

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posted August 09, 2000 02:50 AM            

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I had very good results with using MD-6 and flax seed oil.

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posted August 09, 2000 08:03 PM         

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a good diet!!!

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posted August 09, 2000 11:28 PM            

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cardio!
screw eca stack just because it isn�t healthy I've done meth and I consider eca in the same level because it will give the same effects. If your going to do any herbal stimulants you might as well do Clen, T3, Winstrol at least these are controlled by pharmacies.

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