posted May 11, 2000 03:04 PM         

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I've heard that the best way to cut up and spkie yopur metabolism is to go low carbs for 2-3 days, high carbs one day, low carbs for 2-3 days and so on. For instance, go 200 grams or less for 2-3 days, then 600-1000 grams one day, then keep repeating. Anybody have any ideas?

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posted May 11, 2000 03:44 PM            

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yeah ive heard something like htat to, would like to hear some more, so im bumping it for ya.

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posted May 11, 2000 04:04 PM         

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I've heard that too. The thing you have to keep in mind is that your liver glycogen stores may take a little bit longer to deplete before you get into ketosis. That's why you have to time your workouts according to your level of carb intake. For instance, if you went low carb for 5 days, while keeping your workouts relatively low intensity (as well as cutting back on cardio) then when you get to day 6 and 7 you begin heavily ingesting both low and high glycemic carbs in addition to working out very heavy intensity. That way your body will supercompensate and you might be able to have additional muscle growth.
As for me, I can't really see any muscle growth if I don't take in at least moderate amounts of carbs every day in addition to high protein.

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posted May 11, 2000 04:10 PM         

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I also notice that I burn out quicker on days in which I am carb depleting. One of my buddies has a master's degree in exercise physiology and he says that carbohydrates act as a lactic acid buffer. Thanks fellas.

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posted May 11, 2000 04:12 PM         

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I always keep protein constant at 1.5-2 grams per pound of bodyweight spread over about 6 meals and I like to manipulate my carbs and fats by constantly changing them.

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posted May 12, 2000 03:58 AM         

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As far as CKD diets go (Bodyopus, etc.) the ideal time to stress intensity in a workout is after the carb-up where your muscles are "supercompensated" with glucose, water, and other nutrients. The workouts early in the week (After the carb-up) is when you should lift heavy to induce an anabolic response from your muscles and body. The first 2-3 days after a carb-up is when this is more likely to happen so working half your body 1 day and the other half the next day (or the whole body within this span) will help in this regard. Also, the effect of these workouts and some cardio will enhance your speed into ketosis. As far as losing the most fat possible, the longer you are in ketosis, the more fat will be burned. Obviously you want to replenish the body with carbs before too much muscle is broken, but to enhance the fat burning effects of ketosis, people need to experiment on themselves to see how long they can stay in ketosis before this happens. Bodyopus users have reported great results, as have people who have extended their ketosis time for two weeks before they carb-up. The Grand Depletion workout is by NO means supposed to be an intense workout that creates muscle soreness, its sole purpose is to deplete the body to very, very low levels of glycogen. When these levels are low, we can start carbing -up to create the phenomena of "Supercompensation" which causes "kinetic anabolic expansion" of the muscle cells. The 3 on 3 off scheme might be good on some people, but I would have to question its effect on making the body optimal for fat loss. One last thing to mention though, I do recall Duchaine writing that supercompensation is greatest when the body first enters into ketosis, so reaching ketosis within the 3 days might create a "great" compensation of the muscles. But, this may not be detrimental to fat loss. It just means that your muscles will be full most of the time. I would like some feedback too in regards of peoples experiences with the 3 on 3 off scheme.

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posted May 12, 2000 08:46 AM         

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Hi Mr BMJ. I've tried the 3 on 3 off cycle you were talking about. It didn't do much for me. I lost more muscle than fat. Respect.

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posted May 28, 2000 02:19 PM         

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"I also notice that I burn out quicker on days in which I am carb depleting. One of my buddies has a master's degree in exercise physiology and he says that carbohydrates act as a lactic acid buffer. Thanks fellas.
Thick dog"

One will burn out faster during weight training on a low carb diet, due to low glycogen stores not so much acid buffering capacity.

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