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joegriff
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 17)
posted April 25, 2000 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for joegriff   Click Here to Email joegriff     Edit/Delete Message
ok i have been on the atkins 20 grams of carbs a day diet, i am feeling a little less energetic but i am getting some really good results, i feel lighter in the waist area but my arms and chest are growing,

anyways i need to ask a few questions about this pretty tough diet

#1.Why can you only eat 20 grams of carbs a day?what is the difference on this diet from eating 35 or 40 grams as to 20 grams?


#2.what is ketosis or getting thrown out of ketosis mean?


#3.on the atkins what is the recomended time before you stop the diet?

#4.what does the diet actually do that gives such great results?

#5.what is some good recipes for snacks or something sweet without carbs,eating 20grams a day is getting a little difficult, especially when everyone in the house is eating all kinds of carbs, it makes me wanna scream

#6.on this diet is it true that if you eat something that says it has ten grams of carbs and it shows three grams of fiber does that mean that you are only taking in seven grams of carbs?in other words fiber doesnt count, what about sugar?does that go into the carb thing.

#7 how do you check your ketosis.

i am sorry but since i am a newbie to these phrases i need help,

thanks and have a great day

joe

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somec-
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 34)
posted April 25, 2000 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somec-   Click Here to Email somec-     Edit/Delete Message
Why on earth are you on the Atkins diet if you're trying to bulk up your 5'10" 147lb 18 year old body? You apparently haven't been reading the replies you've gotten to your other questions. Do you want to have a cut-up, athletic body or do you want to look like a marathon runner? Neither is necessarily good or bad, but according to your other posts, your goal is to put on some muscle.

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joegriff
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 25, 2000 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joegriff   Click Here to Email joegriff     Edit/Delete Message
i want to bulk up muscle but stay cut, i dont want to gain alot of fat because i will have to end up losing the fat once i get bulked up, i just want to bulk up muscle wise and keep the fat off, i dont plan on doing what most bodybuilders do because when they lose the fat they actually lose most of the muscle they put on, that would be a waist of time,

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somec-
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 25, 2000 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somec-   Click Here to Email somec-     Edit/Delete Message
It is nearly impossible to *add* muscle while on a low carb diet. It may be possible to maintain current muscle size while on a keto-type of diet, but you certainly won't be adding muscle size. You are at an age and your body is at a stage where you don't need to be worrying about particular diets. Maintain a good cardio program, eat decent high-protein foods, and hit the weights, and you'll add plenty of muscle and very little fat.

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cockdezl
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 25, 2000 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cockdezl     Edit/Delete Message
First off, a keto diet is not the best for bulking since the low carbs will decrease IGF levels. You can increase muscle but it requires a lot of calories.

Second, to answer your questions:
1.) A keto diet requires eating very low carbs to enter into ketosis, generally accepted as 30g or less. Once in ketosis, though some have found that 30-40g spread out through the day will not kick them out of ketosis.

2.) Ketosis is when the body is deprived of carbohydrates and the body begins to tap into body fat. Since the body is low in carbs, the liver begins to fracture the fatty acids into ketone bodies: acetone, acetoacetate, and beta-hydroxybutyrate. When sufficient carbs are ingested the liver stops making ketones; this is what is known as "getting kicked out of ketosis".

3.) Stopping is dependant on your goals.

4.) The diet really doesn't give much better results than a standard carbohydrate diet, this is even agreed upon by Lyle McDonald, who wrote "The Ketogenic Bible". But there are some perks, such as reduced appetite, reduced water retention, capable of higher than average diet calorie intake.

5.) There are several sites online that can help with this. Just perform a search and you should find a number of them.

6.) I am not sure about this one.

7.) Ketone strips will test your ketone levels. They can be found at drug stores, and are simply held under your stream of urine.

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MR. BMJ
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 26, 2000 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MR. BMJ     Edit/Delete Message
#5.) The foods you can eat on a ketogenic diet are limited as you have already found out. A recipe that I enjoy eating is one that I read from Lyle McDonald.
6 Tablespoons of Heavy whipping cream in a bowl, 2 Tablespoons of Canola Oil Blend (found at any grocery store), 1 1/2 scoops of strawberry Designer Protein, 2 Teaspoons of creatine (10 grams), 1 packet of equal. I stir all this up into a pudding. The amounts of each ingredients depends on how thick you want the pudding, and how many calories that you can eat. Adjust the ingredients to your own needs. This is a quick, and very good/sweet tasting meal that I mix-up when in a hurry. This meal contains a total of 621 calories, 86% fat, 12% protein, and only 2% carbs. Try it out yourself.

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MR. BMJ
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 26, 2000 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MR. BMJ     Edit/Delete Message
#6.) Try to avoid as much carbs as you can. It is impossible to take out all carbs in everything you eat. Fiber cannot be used by your body as fuel. You need to see how your body will react to fiber. And Yes, sugar does count against you as carb calories. Some people can eat more carbs than others, and it is usually something that the dieter has to experiment with in order to see how much of it will effect them. Part of dieting is trial and error through your own experiences. You should probably buy the book Bodyopus by Dan Duchaine, or the Cyclic Ketogenic Diet book by Lyle McDonald. They are both good books that will answer a lot of your questions. Try to keep active throughout the day. This will help keep your mind off eating/binging.

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MR. BMJ
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 26, 2000 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MR. BMJ     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, go to mesomorphosis.com and click on "contributers" to the left of the page. It will list the names of a bunch of writers. Click on the name "Lyle Mcdonald". He has answered a lot of questions regarding guidelines for ketogenic dieting, and it may answer some of your questions.

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