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bigsexy
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 20, 2000 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigsexy     Edit/Delete Message
i am relatively lean, i have heard many arguements for both sides of the high carb vs. low carb debate, which is best for lean muscle?

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bsjohnson
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 20, 2000 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bsjohnson   Click Here to Email bsjohnson     Edit/Delete Message
you should have a balance diet. you shouldnt' keep a low carb diet for a long time b/c you can start breaking down protien for energy, expecially if your lean and dont' have a lot of fat stores. but if your trying to stay lean just due cardio. protein, carbs, can also turn into fat if you don't use them up. Everyone is different so just experiement with differt cal. intakes and see what works best for ya. good luck, i hope this helped a little.

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bigsexy
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posted May 05, 2000 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigsexy     Edit/Delete Message
thanks man, anyone else have opinion on this????

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GOWZER
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posted May 05, 2000 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GOWZER   Click Here to Email GOWZER     Edit/Delete Message
if youre not on a diet there is no reason to cut carbs from your diet,carbs will help restore glycogen stores which we destroy during exercise,carbs also release insulin which pushes nutrients in to our muscle cells,thelow carb diets were originally designed for people with glucose tolerance problems.as bodybuilders carbs are essential for muscle norishment,unless your trying to lose weight there is no reason to completly cut carbs from your diet,carbs should be taken in the morning pre workout and post workout,other wise forget about gaining muscle as your body will use protien for energy.

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MR. BMJ
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posted May 05, 2000 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MR. BMJ     Edit/Delete Message
Having adequate amounts of all three macronutrients I feel is important. Carbs are definately important when trying to add extra muscle. The trick is to eat as many as you can without going over the limit to where they are deposited into fat stores. I am not saying how much to eat because I do not know, all I know is that I myself cannot eat a lot of carbs for an extended period of time without looking water retented/soft. Through my own observations my max carbs/day when trying to gain muscle comes out to be between 33%-40% (ala isometric diet and other zone diets) which I imagine happens to be what a lot of other peoples are unless your body responds well to them. If I could eat more carbs and get away with it, I would probably take full advantage of it.

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seeseerider
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 10, 2000 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeseerider     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70537912
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BackDoc
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posted May 11, 2000 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
In BodyOpus and at his website, Dan Duchaine mentions one method of gaining muscle is to go on a ketogenic diet for about a week, while keeping workouts relatively low intensity. Then at the end of the diet, begin to work out like a madman and start consuming a mixture of all types of carbs in order to force your muscles to "supercompensate". In doing so, your muscle cells are supposed to drink up all the carbs as soon as they come into contact. I haven't actually tried this, so I can't really say that it is that effective. I also wonder if the supercompensation could also happen for fat cells as well, since we are like camels in the sense that we store lots of fat for future use. That could be one possible use of a ketogenic diet for muscle building rather than fat loss.

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