posted April 13, 2000 10:54 AM            

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how good is this in your diet if tey are good at all??

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posted April 13, 2000 05:05 PM         

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Fruits will ruin the bodybuilders physique. If you are trying to cut fat weight, then you must not eat them...but if you have to, then only eat fruit in the morning. The reason for this is because fruit sugar goes from the digestive tract into the liver and is converted to glucose extremely quickly. That will mean that the glucose enters your bloodstream very quickly also. Insulin levels will rise rapidly and that means that some of the glucose will be stored in your fat cells. This is because insulin is the carrier substance for glucose. Glucose can't enter muscle cells without insulin. When blood sugar is high, insulin rushes out of the pancreas in a hurry to get all the glucose out of the bloodstream. This is a protective mechanism...since bacteria love blood sugar also, insulin is also working to make sure that extra glucose is put in cells to keep bacteria from having a chance to feed and breed.
Eat fruit when you are trying to add weight, but if you're trying to lose fat, then avoid fruit. There are also supplements to help prevent insulin spiking, let me know if you want to know about them.
I hope that helps...let me know.

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posted April 14, 2000 09:17 AM            

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Im interested. thanks for the reply

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posted April 14, 2000 11:44 PM         

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If you want to help keep your insulin levels balanced---which means it will be easier to get rid of those last stubborn 5-10 pounds, you need to take a couple of relatively cheap supplements in addition to a good fat burner like adipo or xenadrine.
Alpha lipoic acid (200 mg) with each meal and with your post workout creatine drink. It acts like insulin and helps to mop up any excess sugar and transport it to muscle cells instead of the excess sugar being converted into fat cells.
You also need to address the problem of cortisol, since it is one of the factors contributing to stored bodyfat. Vitamin C has been shown to lower cortisol levels which means faster recouperation from your workouts in addition to preventing cortisol related fat deposition.
I hope that helps.

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posted April 16, 2000 01:57 AM            

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BACKCDOC, WHAT ABOuT THE FRUITS THAT AR RATED LOW ON THE GLYCEMIC INDEX, SUCH AS PLUMS, GRAPEFRUIT??

THANKS

HARDWORK-100MPH

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posted April 16, 2000 03:08 AM         

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I'd still eat them before lunchtime in the least so that you can burn them off for the rest of the day. It's fine to eat fruits during your mass building phase, but I'd leave them out when you're trying to cut the fat since they pretty much all play havoc on your blood sugar levels. That really goes true for all sugary foods. yams are decent. I even like to eat oranges and pears for breakfast, so I really think moderation is the key.
Also, the original post mentioned nuts and seeds. You can eat those. Although they are high in fats, they are basically nature's perfect human food. After all, everything in a seed is designed to produce a living plant, so it's got lots of mass-building proteins, essential fats, vitamins and minerals for healthy growth. So you can snack on nuts and seeds during the day just not just before bed.

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posted April 16, 2000 05:36 PM         

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First, fruits and nuts are great foods, since they contain numerous health promoting chemicals; resveratrol, vitamin c, monounsaturated fats, etc. The key is your goal. If you are trying to drop weight, then you may want to cut carbs and fruits contain carbs. Many fruits are low glycemic index and therefore are better sources of carbs than higher GI carbs, such as potatoes and rice.

Second, insulin's effects on blood glucose levels is not to prevent bacteria from growing in your blood, since your blood should be sterile. If it is not, you have septicemia and are fucked. Insulin lowers BG by allowing for glucose to enter the cells, which are very impermeable to glucose (due to electrical nature of the cell membrane and glucose). Without insulin, glucose can't enter the cell and you are diabetic. Also, high BG levels causes hardening of the arteries through a process called glycosylation.

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posted April 16, 2000 06:26 PM         

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I agree that fruits are extremely nutritious, as are nuts. I also agree that they will make you fat if they are eaten in excess(as will anything)The insulin spiking problem that would occur if fruits high on the GI are eaten can be avoided: if they are eaten as part of a meal with Fat and Protien. The latter macro-nutrients will slow the digestion of the fruit and allow for gradual absorption...
Just make the fruit count as the carbs of your meal, and you can enjoy their heavenly taste and multitudinous nutritional benefits.
Nuts are indeed loaded with essential nutrients, and are vitually non-insulin stimulating.

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posted April 16, 2000 07:37 PM         

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Blood is not exactly sterile, since there are, in fact, bacteria present in it to some degree at all times. They are there based on the fact that we all have cuts and sores and bacterial/viral proteins looking for another meal. If our blood was truly sterile, then diabetics wouldn't have to worry about infection---their immune system would handle ANY problem. But that's not the case. Our immune system is strong enough under normal circumstances to continue its bacteriocidal actions against foreign invasion, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't there in lieu of. They're just not a big factor when we are functioning normally---i.e. bacteria come in through various portals of entry and are quickly killed or attenuated by our immune system. The diabetic (who has a problem with insulin production) may have a tough time with the immune system being able to suppress the bacterial invasion since sugar left in the bloodstream is like an invitation for any bacteria to "feed and breed". So although insulin doesn't exist SOLELY for the purpose of preventing bacterial overgrowth (and thus said conditions of septicemia) it does play a very powerful role in allowing our immune system to do it's job by transporting blood glucose to intracellular components for utilization. Hope that clarifies it a little.

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posted April 17, 2000 08:52 AM            

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basically what i want to do is lose fat. I have hard abs but still have that layer of fat hiding them. Im really not tryin to lose to much weight. I basically lost what i wanted to lose. But it seems like i might have to lose more weight.

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