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bitachaos Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11) |
posted February 17, 2000 05:57 PM
   I am recovering from and injury that has put me down for nearly a year. I've gained about 40 lbs. since the injury of fat. I want to burn this shit off and want to know if the Ketogenic diet would be a good route or if it would be better to cut carbs and the majority of fat out of my diet and hit the cardio hard as hell? Any suggestions....I would appreciate any info on the best route to take...THANX IP: Logged |
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snapdragon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 23) |
posted February 23, 2000 01:39 PM
For me and most people ketosis is a shitty feeling. I'd listen to the late great Dan Duchaine's advise--start with a "regular" diet between 60/40/10 (C/P/F) and 70/30/10. Restrict calories and use the E/C/A stack. Adding yohimbe and or l-tyrosine to the stack (400mg /1000mg respectively) helped for me. Then go to a isocaloric/zone diet. 40/30/30 - 33/33/33 making sure you have your calories under control. Hopefully this will get you most of the way there. Only then would I "go ketogenic". It is a shitty feeling--it works but it would still take a while to get where you want. Might as well make the first part easier and get used to lowering carb intake. A lot of people who have never resticted carbs will go through sheer hell on a ketogenic diet and won't lose any weight because they will not restrict carbs enough or won't eat enough fat. They might even end up worse for not following it closely. IP: Logged |
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bitachaos Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11) |
posted February 24, 2000 05:54 PM
Thanks for the input snap, I have been dieting, cut the majority of my fat and carbs, they are very restricted. The chicken and tuna bit is getting damn old, I have to gag the crap down. I am eating mostly protein, and doing a shitload of cardio, hopefully this will give me the results that I want...I am also lifting but not expecting any big gains, I am getting the protein, but do not have the energy for a heavy workout with my limited carb intake. IP: Logged |
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jettstream Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 118) |
posted March 03, 2000 06:32 PM
Hey man, i went from 255 to 205 on the no/low carb diet, i cut everything out that had sugars in it. Eat eggs, cheese, meat, and fish. Vegetable are allowed to but not the first couple of weeks. you're never hungry on this diet....EVER I was working out during my diet as well and once my body SHIFTED to fat burning, i was NEVER tired....i could do sprints and lift weights. Two minutes later, i was fully recharged. By this i want to illustrate that there is ALWAYS a CONSTANT supply of energy once carbs are cut out. Good luck, message me if you have any questions, or need some food / recipe suggestions. ------------------ ==JeTTsTreaM IP: Logged |
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Behemoth Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 59) |
posted March 04, 2000 06:09 PM
I always used to do diets with as near to 0g Fat/Carbs but my brain shut down after two days and I craved carbs like there was no tomorrow, however, and this may sound drastic, I began takin a couple of teaspoons of peanut butter (yes full of fat) first thing in the morning. I found that my metabolism got a good 'kickstart' from this and my mood and 'brain functions were near normal. My carbs craving went. Givin the effect that most people in the gym can't understand why I am so full of life but also loosing fat just as rapidly. Remember if you take no carbs, therfore no insuline release, your body can NOT store the butter! IP: Logged |
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Xeler8ed Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1) |
posted March 31, 2000 08:38 AM
I currently am on an extremely low carb diet (30gms per day). However, I am tentative to raise my fat levels to compensate for the lack of carbs out of fear of getting fat. (5 weeks out from a show). Can anyone put my mind at ease. IP: Logged |
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somec- Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 7) |
posted March 31, 2000 11:58 AM
bitachaos... You may want to add a couple servings per day of a protein shake to your diet. This will help get your protein intake to where it should be (around 1 gram or higher per pound of body weight), give you some other essential vitamins, and supply you with moderate amounts of carbs. Products such as Myoplex and Isopure are pretty tasty and help to break up the monotony of a chicken/tuna diet (add turkey breast as well, high protein, low fat). Keep your metabolism high all day by adding an E/C/A stack and eat 5-6 small meals. Do some light cardio before breakfast and be sure that you do not skip breakfast and you'll be on the right track. The tuna/chicken/turkey diet can get old, but you can stick with it by varying it a bit. My local grocer sells pre-packaged lemon pepper, teriyaki, and lemon herb chicken breasts, which really makes it easy on me. Give yourself a cheat day once per week if you can stick to your diet, but don't get out of control. I've found that I tend to eat healthier foods even on my cheat day simply because the diet changes the way you look at food. IP: Logged |
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