posted February 02, 2000 10:21 PM            

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can someone help me what is the best supplement that would help me burn fat im on andro and need somehelp please help me out with a good diet and supplement to lose fat and and gain muscle

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posted February 03, 2000 05:13 AM         

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Andro is good to gain lean mass but it's better if you stack it with 19-Norandrostenedione and 19-Norandrostenediol. To loose weight there is a very good product from TwinLab called "diet fuel" , or Dymetadrine Xtreme by Ast. Regarding the diet , just eat less carbs and more proteins. Don't forget to take Cell-Tech also after your workouts (10 grams of creatine monoidrate with taurine and lipoi acid).

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posted February 03, 2000 12:22 PM            

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Cell tech? I question taking ceel tech while dieting. It is loaded with Carbs and calories. I liked cell-tech although it's not my fave, but I wouldn't use it while trying to get body fat down.

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posted February 04, 2000 06:12 AM         

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Newbe , Cell-Tech is absorbed by your body immediately after your work-out to promote muscle growth and recovery , it does not become fat.

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posted February 08, 2000 04:47 PM         

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If you use cell tech be sure to count those calories and carbs in your daily totals. It is true that your muscles need the carbs after working out but if at the end of the day the cell tech puts you 200 calories above maintanace you are not going to lose fat. peace

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posted February 10, 2000 09:13 PM         

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use syntrax adipokinitex, with a low carb diet...works awesome....

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posted February 11, 2000 03:28 PM         

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I agree with hyper...adipokinetix is the bomb on a low carb diet...just don't follow the instructions on the bottle...they tell you to take it with a meal..instead take it an hour before or after a meal as the insulin spike from the meal with counteract the yohimbe...kind of a waste of the yohimbe to take it with a meal...also if you can still score some triatricol somewhere..BUY IT
ralphie out

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posted February 13, 2000 05:41 PM         

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I work at GNC. When u want to preserve your muscle mass and actually build muscle while losing weight, there is one way to go. In addition to a fat burner( I strongly recomend hydroxycut ) take three grams of HMB_a day but more importantly, take about 4-12 grams a day of glutamine. Trust me, building muscle while losing fat is the hardest thing to do. This will make the job the easiest it naturally can get. Do it , I guarantee only the best.Stak the an with NOR!

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posted March 02, 2000 12:26 PM         

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Hydroxycut or Xenadrine will work.

[This message has been edited by Mr. T (edited March 02, 2000).]

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posted March 02, 2000 01:57 PM            

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what about the standby eca (ephedrine, caffeine asprin) cheaper than buying a special fat burner and you know what your getting. I think ephedrine has some muscle sparing properties (not anabolic).

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posted March 02, 2000 07:54 PM         

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not to flame the guy who works at gnc...who is way overpriced...HMB is the biggest sham ever....don't wsate your money on that crap...especially at GNC....find your local musclemag....or call the one in scranton...they will deliver....20 bucks for adipokinetix....that is 15 off of retail...and only five bucks more than buying straight caffeine and ephedrine....and you get yohimbine....can't beat that

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