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Pro Bodybuilder 
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Wrote this out for you:tell me what you think! 1. meal 1- 10 egg whites -1/2 cup oatmeal With sugar free sweetner Try this diet for 8 weeks and do your cardio first thing when you wake up and you will be under 10 % You can mix and match these meals but dont take in any carbs after meal 5 and no fats either---drink only water/ cystle lite is ok ---Its only 8 weeks of your life and after you do this then you can have cheat days and more carbs and your bodyfat will not excede 10 %-----Easy right--Give it a try--Dont step on a scale or use a tape measure--It will take a good 4 weeks for your body to adjust and after the 4 th week you will really see a diff. Eat red meat just once a week instead of chix.
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Moderator 
Posts: 609 |
At what times is she to eat each of these meals? What time are you having her begin each day and what time is her last meal?  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 448 |
Sliver is actually a guy --I guess he only posts on the womans board---The dude is like 25% bodyfat and wants to get down to 15%--I told him to do this for 8 weeks and morning cardio and he will get under 10%---He should be eating every 2 1/2 hours to fit in 7 meals--It doesnt matter what time he eats to for their is no carbs at night and the fact that he 0nly wants to get to 15 % --which if he follows this he will get lower then that---He Natrual and has never be lean from what he states. first meal 7am-every 2 1/2 hours will bring him to last meal 10pm-no real carbs after 7pm and he will be fine [This message has been edited by Wombat (edited February 09, 2001).] | ||
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Moderator
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So the protein drinks at night are pure protein, not meal replacements. (low carb/hi pro)? What if the protein drink is mixed with skim milk. From what I understand dairy=bad. My protein mixed with water tastes like chocolate water. BLAH!!!!! And what about venison for red meat or chicken. Sorry so many questions. Just trying something new here. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 75 |
I'm not trying to flame but this diet is total bullshit. It's gonna be almost impossible to follow, and the one i'm following now isn't all that difficult and I've already lost a half inch off my waist in 1 week. Sorry man, just trying to say that there's a much easier diet that allows you to lose weight. Breakfast - bacon and five eggs snack - sugar free, carb free jello lunch - any kind of meat with a tablespoon of a1 sauce, the regular kind with 3 carbs (if you're still in highschool which I am I eat a carbsolutions bar for lunch 21 grams of protien, 2 carbs.) snack - sugar free, carb free jello supper - same as lunch after the first few days the diet is quite easy and if you need you can have a cheat day on the fourth day I drink all the diet soda I want as well as all the jello and/or 0 carb beef sticks I want I'm gonna stay on it for 2 months or until I get the results I want, if you're skeptical just wait 2 months for me to post my before and after pictures. btw, I don't use any eca crap, just chromium picolinate ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice 
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I wasn't going to say anything, but it's too tempting. First off, I use a very similar diet when I get lean, except I eat 6 meals and more protein, and complex carbs. One quick question, WTF does any kind of meat mean? Bologny? Hot dogs? Sliced turkey? or that junk they serve in cafetarias? Bacon and five eggs???? I wonder what your cheat days look like. And FYI, chromium picolinate is crap, not eca. You call the first diet plan bullshit, I'm curious as to how much you weight, and what you lift. There are some really ignorant people in high school. [This message has been edited by BigAndy69 (edited February 09, 2001).] [This message has been edited by BigAndy69 (edited February 09, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 75 |
How about you kiss my ass mother fucker and go back to jerking off in the corner. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1256 |
Hey there goin big, I'm happy you've found a diet that you're thrilled with. But the diet that Wombat has outlined is a diet that has worked fabulously for hard core bodybuilders for decades. I don't think it is very fair of you to call it bullshit. This is a great board for sharing info and experiences, but not the place to come and flame someone without good cause. Peace and happy dieting to all. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 75 |
I'm here to give and receive good information, and exactly as you said, hardcore bodybuilders. Those guys are strict as hell, for the normal person with no willpower this diet is almost impossible. And while we're talking about flaming, I didn't do any swearing till bigandy opened his big mouth. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 448 |
Going Big ---This diet was for a dude named slither but since you added your 2 cense in---I think your late for your high school dance--dude you dont know what the f*** your talking about---The last time I took chromium picolinate, was the first time--I sorted it because I was 4% bodyfat and was out at a party and didnt have any xtc --so I sorted that s***---Dude do a real f***ing diet before you open your mouth---you fat piece of s***---do you actually think anyone will follow your diet which evolves about 125 grams of protein---What the f*** do you weigh ---70 pounds---Im going to talk to George -to Have you pulled from the board just for being such a dumba**--- [This message has been edited by Wombat (edited February 10, 2001).] [This message has been edited by Wombat (edited February 10, 2001).] [This message has been edited by Wombat (edited February 11, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 75 |
whatever first off I don't do dances second off I weigh 240 and believe whatever you want. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 47 |
I think it's pretty clear how uneducated you really are. But your biggest problems are stubborness, and stupidity. I see it all the time, especially HS kids: people that think they know it all. They say shit like you need to do 10 of 10 reps of everything, and they go around eating Big Macs for protein, and when they wanna lose weight they'll eat McChickens. If they are lucky they will usually gain a few pounds of muscle the first 2 months they train, usually in the bis and sometimes on the chest. They usually train biceps three times a week, and they think that shoulders are joints and should not be trained. After about 6 months, they realise that they are not making gains, and instead of changing their routines or adjusting their food intake, they go and buy Creatine, and later on, if they haven't given up yet, prohormones. They usually eat the Creatine, putting directly into there mouths without mixing in a liquid. I could go on and on, but I think I made my point. Oh yeah, and they buy muscle mags, to look at the pictures, and the only thing they read are ads with the usual, I gained 25lbs in 3 weeks. Then, they go around telling people that this kind of supp is amazing and really works, even though they've never tried it. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I know there's no point in trying to 'educate' goin big, but for other board members who may read this post I will try to bring some sanity back to this topic. Goin Big would have lost a 1/2 inch off his waist (this is assuming he could even meaningfully measure such a small difference) on his diet because of the loss of muscle glycogen and fluid retention that comes in the first week on low carb diets. That combined with lots of diet soda (a diuretic) means he probably just pissed out several pounds of water. ECA has been proven in endless studies to be an effective supplement for fat loss. Chromium has not stood up so well to the rigours of scientific scrutiny. High protein/moderate carb diets (as wombat oultined)work. I will happily compare MY before and after photos from one of these diets. Dieting takes willpower. Without a tremendous amount of willpower you will never get down to low bodyfat like a 'pro bodybuilder'no matter what diet you use. Slither does not want to get down to 4% BF!! He only wants to get to a modest 15%, and this diet will get him there quickly and healthily. It is not hard to stick to for a couple of months, and will also get him into better eating habits that will help keep the fat off for life. If you're here to give and receive good information then how about doing just that rather than blowing your mouth off with unsupported personal opinion that you treat as gospel. It is PLAIN IGNORANT to suggest there is only one right way to diet, and all other methods are crap. | ||
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Cool Novice
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I think I might have to post this on the women's board as well. MS, can you please post some before/after photos of the effects of these diets? I'm assuming Slither's diet consists of app. 150g of carbs from the bananas, rice, and oatmeal. Now since he is a large man, how would you adjust this diet for a smaller woman to be considered "moderate" carbs? Also, how does this work differently then cycling couple low carb days with a high carb day? Is it more effective? Does the carb cycling work on the ketosis principle or is it too time contrained for ketosis? Thanks in advance! BTW, it's a shame that some people have to resort to bad language and putdowns. It's a sure sign of ignorance to me. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 141 |
Well said MS. I do agree that a no carb diet will drop some quick weight, but in the long haul, I've had more success with a diet such as the one that Wombat outlined. My only exception is that instead of natural peanut butter, I use flaxseed oil. Sure this diet isn't all that easy, and most "normal" people wouldn't pull through. But hell, we're bodybuilders, there is a reason we chose to make our bodies look better than the average joe. Chromium?? Yeah, stack it with smilax and HMB for best results. Feels like deca! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 75 |
alright wombat, sorry about flaming your diet, ok now bigandy I follow a routine well doing 6 reps on everything or failure if I can I work legs, I work back, I work biceps, I work triceps, I work shoulders, I work traps, I work forearms, I work neck, I work calves, wait, yep I work everything i've been lifting for 3 years I'm following a strict diet I don't use creatine and well looks like you're wrong on everything that you said stop flaming me and go elsewhere p.s. wombat I must be misunderstanding your diet or something cuz I thought you were stating a low carb diet. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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i was on the diet going big was on for three days till i was pulled off by my parents i lost 3 pounds and started getting visable veins in my arms and now that im off i am starting to lose the veins so his diet works also ------------------ "Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity." "In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird, and people take prozac to make it normal." http://pub33.ezboard.com/bburnboy check this board out its just gettin started | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 530 |
just wondering if you could post up another diet up. I was 233 i'm at 223 right now, and did it just by eating less fast food, and avoiding the number #1 killer sugar. Any other options for meals i can use? Just a question as well... i always thought chromium picolinate was worthless isn't it? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 448 |
Going_big-sorry about my swearing --sometimes I get heated up---If your diet works for you, then great,stick to it--- The reason I put all natrual peanut Butter into this guys diet was just for taste---He has never really dieted before so he will be loving the peanut butter---same with the bananas--by week 4 -he will be counting the min. before he can have a banana or pb--This diet will keep him pretty sane but will still be diff. for him, but when its done, he will rethink the way he eats. His body will go thru a big transfermation. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 75 |
alright man, i'm sorry too, i overreacted hey oak, thanks for the post yea, I gave oak the diet, and we both were on it till his parents screwed him over, parents can be bs sometimes btw guys, chromium picolinate works for me, it gives me a boost of energy and I've foudn I gain muscle faster while using it maybe it just works for me *shrugs* ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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quote: The more power to you, I don't have any problems being wrong. I am not here to flame you or anyone else. My point was that by saying that Wombat's diet was bullshit, you sounded like one of those know-it-all morons. Hey, if the diet you outlined works for you, and chromium picolinate gives you good results, that's great. But you shouldn't come off saying that eca is crap just because you don't use it. That's all. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 75 |
oh.... you took what I said completely wrong I wasn't saing eca was crap, see i'm not allowed to take it cuz my parents won't let me all i was saying is I use chromium not eca sorry for the misunderstanding andy ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Oh it's so good to see you guys kiss and make up! Goin_big, perhaps you could keep us posted on your diet progress. As I mentioned before, 3 days to one week on a keto diet you will lose mostly sub-cutaneous water. This will make you look and feel thinner, your weight will drop on the scales and your veins, etc will show better. But this is not fat-loss! So it's hard for anyone to take your results seriously until you've stuck to the diet for 4-6 weeks (or more if necessary) and have a very measureable loss of FAT without much loss of muscle. Will you be having any high carb days on this diet?? Someone should also mention that this diet thing started on a different board, where wombat volunteered to make slither a diet that would get the fat off of him, and that he could (in essence) stick to FOR LIFE with a few modifications. Slither sounds like a genuine endomorph, and it's probably not a good idea to start him out on a diet that will encourage eating habits that he shouldn't follow long-term. Gotta get him in the groove for a leaner lifestyle. Oh yeah, and parents suck. Impossible to try and educate them. It's a shame, really. ECA is probably more effective on a keto diet than any other sort of diet. Are you sure you can't sneak some into the house disguised as a bottle of Vitamin-C or something? | ||
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Cool Novice
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Then it's all good! My parents had to be the worst. My mother was affraid that potein powder had steroids in it! I would hide it in my closet, and tell her not to touch it. One time she found a tube, it was champion nutrition proscore or something, and she dumped it in the toilet. Man, it was like 50$ worth of whey. So I made a deal with her; I would stop taking it if she supplied all the steak and chicken I wanted. I was eating like a horse, and I must have gained like 15 lbs in 4-5 months. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 75 |
One problem with your vit-c idea, which I already thought of, hehe you have to be 18 to buy any products with ephedrine in them yea, I'm thinking maybe I should have one cheat day a week, but i'm not sure how that works do I eat whatever I want? I could use some advice on mine to if anyone would like to gimme some advice eca does rule and I already told my mom i'm going on hydroxycut when I go to college in about 6 months btw, I didn't really mean all the diet soda you want, just 2 maybe ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 75 |
You have to be 18 to buy Primatene? Usually its associated with the inhalers, but in tablet form its Ephedrine with Guafenesine...Just get NoDoz and a childrens chewable aspirin. All should be almost on the same shelf in the drug store... Pubert | ||
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Novice 
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wombat, I have been following this post and the one slither started. I am in about the same position slither is in, in that I have the mass(I wiegh 215 w/ about 22% bodyfat) but i am not as lean as I would like. I am a very busy person and if is next to impossible to eat 7 meals a day. Is there any way to get the same effects from maybe 5 meals a day? I have been considering clen, but I think that i would be much happier if i could do it naturally. Any help would be appriciated. |
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posted February 07, 2001 02:23 AM