2 cans of tuna 3TBL mayo

8-10oz chicken brest 3TBL mayo
2oz Cheeze

I don't think so. Ketones are a BYPRODUCT of fat metabolismare they not? If so, as long as your body is using fat for energy, you will excrete ketones. Now if your body can use ketones themselves as energy...then you wouldn't pass them in your urine, but I have never heard of this.

Also, I hate to hear people say, "If you're not in ketosis, eat more fat!" It seems to me that if you eat enough fat, you will simply use the fat you take in with your food as energy, and thus produce ketones in the urine. Those ketones are coming from fat you've eaten, NOT from body fat stores.

You said you usually get a "purple" reading on ketstix after at least 5 day of low-carbing. But when you dieted before do you think you might have been carrying more body fat? More-body-fat-on-previous-diets would be the simplest explanation to what's going on this time.

Also, I assume your excercise routine is the same as on previous occasions?

I think each person's body has a level of body fat that it just damn-near refuses to go below, period. That's not something anybody wants to accept, but it seems likely.
You could starve below it--I mean like getting into post-concentration camp starved--but obviously that's not what we're after.

Of course, everybody is different. Some people can diet 'till they look totally lean. I myself, am an ectomorph, but still have really stubborn fat around the middle that looks bad (to me that is).

BTW, I think ketostix are the best way to get a day-by-day measure of what's going on with your body's fat metabolism.

I started a low carb diet Aug. 5th at #208. Didn't start with the stix 'till Sep. 4th. (The reason being that I didn't start serious cardio 'till 9/4.) Readings, all taken in the AM were:

trace-small-small-moderate-moderate-moderate (carb garbage eating day!)-moderate-moderate-trace-trace-trace-trace-small-small (carb day again. This time 6 bran muffins and Wheaties in the am. 7 krispy creme doughnuts, a couple of cupcakes, two double cheese burgers in the pm. Yeah, I know...but this is a dietary experiment, right? I'm learning from this.)-today's am keto none (Suprise, suprise, right?)

Maybe you've hit the wall so far as fat loss goes? Are you taking anything?

For myself, I might just eat low GI carbs-say barley grits & protien in milk in the am maybe eod, and cut the garbage day out completely from here on. Then stick to non-starchy vegs., meat, cheese, oil, eggs like I've been doing for the rest of the time. And of course lift (at reduced intensity), and do at least 1hr cardio/day.

Also, I'm on 250 Sust (tapered out as of this past week) & 300 EQ (which I might increase.)

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have you read Body Opus or Anabolic Diet?
DiPasquale does not recommend that you even worry about ketosis while on 60% fat, 35% protein, 5% carbs - just worry about calories Mon-Fri and eat everything in sight Sat-Sun. Duchaine sais that the only time you should be showing any ketones in your urine is in the morning and that if you are showing them at night, you are eating too much and they are coming from dietary fat, not body fat. Also, the entire Body Opus, which is really the only TRUE CKD (since Anabolic Diet is not based on the premise that the dieter is attempting to achieve ketois during the week, merely a hormonal shift) assumes that you will be in keotis only for three days. If ketosis is the determining factor in the success of a cyclical low carb diet, I have to speculate that its strictest incarnation - Body Opus - would call for more days in ketosis than that.

Also, if you like, I can give you a direct reference to Dr Dipasquale saying that once you've adapted to low carbs, you should not be excreting ketones any longer. It is on an oder issue of T-Mag.