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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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STEN IS MADE BY ATLANTIS LABS IN MEXICO.THERE IS NO FAKES I KNOW OF.IT IS VERY CHEAP AND EFFECTIVE.THEY COME IN CLEAR GLASS AMPULES WITH 2CC IN EACH.THE LIQUID IS ALSO CLEAR AND EACH AMPULE CONTAINS 120 MG OF 3 DIFFERENT TESTOSTERONES.AVERAGE DOSES ARE 1 TO 3 AMPULES A WEEK BUT I THINK YOU WILL NEED AT LEAST 2 A WEEK IF NOT MORE.   | ||
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Cool Novice 
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Yes there are some fake sten out there. Do you know anyone that collects Muscle Mag International,Greg Zulac has a colum that shows what Some steriods look like. I know in the last couple months there was an article on sten.Sten is only two types of test I don't remember the two. Since sten is only 120mg you will need to take 4-6 amps a day. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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DIGDOG,YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT STEN.YOU SHOULD NOT POST UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.IT IS 3 DIFFERENT TESTS,20MG DIHYDROTESTOSTERONE,25MG PROPIONATE,75 MG CYPIONATE TO BE EXACT AND 1 TO 4 AMPS A DAY IS WAY TOO MUCH.THAT WOULD BE A DOSAGE OF 840 TO 3360 MG PER WEEK.ARE YOU INSANE?THOSE DOSAGES WILL CAUSE SEVERE SIDE EFFECTS.PLEASE DONT POST UNLESS YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK.BY THE WAY THIS INFO CAME RIGHT OUT OF THE PHYSICAL ENHANCEMENT WITH AN EDGE BOOK. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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MY MISTAKE,THAT DOSAGE WOULD BE 3360MG TO 5040MG PER WEEK OF TEST.PLEASE,I SAY PLEASE DO NOT GIVE THIS FALSE INFO.YOU COULD GET SOMEBODY IN SEVERE TROUBLE IF THEY WERE TO USE THIS AMOUNT OF TEST.THIS AMOUNT WILL CAUSE EVERY SIDE EFFECT YOU EVER HEARD OF. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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Here is some basic info on STEN: Sten is an low dose testosterone blend produced in Mexico. Each 2ml ampule of Sten contains 25 mg testosterone propionate, 75mg testosterone cypionate along with 20mg DHEA. Holding the DHEA irrelevant at the moment, this steroid basically contains 50mg of testosterone per ml. 3 or 4 ampules (or more depending on AS experience) of Sten are usually injected per week in divided doses to break up the injection volume. Still, this adds up to 6 or 8 ml per week which is quite a bit when compared to other products like Sustanon. For this reason, Sten is generally used only when other testosterones are unavailable. How much & how long depend on your AS experience and what your cycle looks like??? Hope this helps you out, Pitbull [This message has been edited by ThePitbull (edited June 10, 2000).] | ||
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Cool Novice
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Sorry the dosage sould have been 2-6 a week. And Now I'm unsure of what is in sten One article I found said it was 100mg cyp. and 20mg DHEA.and I found another article that backs up what you said. | ||
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DigDog-it was stenzolol in the article in MuscleMag. Pitbull and Ultramann - Thank you | ||
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Pitbull- Thanks bro [This message has been edited by ajc1977 (edited June 11, 2000).] | ||
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Cool Novice
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Look ajc1977 I'm not a fucking idoit, MuscleMag had an article on STEN,And I have been to mexico and seen two different types of sten.One of them were fake. [This message has been edited by DigDog (edited June 11, 2000).] | ||
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No one said you were an idiot. I just wouldn't take any advice from you  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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What's up? Yes, you could stack the two together. Deca is a very good AS for a newbie. But, only 1 amp of Sten per week is a very weak dose. That's only 100mg of test per week. You need more than that to see some good results, even for your first time. I would go with at LEAST 3 amps. per week and stack it with your deca. Do some research on the other discussion board under newbie cycles. Put your cycle together then let the bro's critique it. Your first time is the best so make the most of it and do it right. Hope this helps, Pitbull | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I AGREE WITH PITBULL,AND LIKE I SAID DIGDOG,DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU GIVE DOSAGE ADVICE AND IF IT WAS A MISTAKE,PLEASE BE MORE CAREFUL. | ||
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Cool Novice
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I have already apoligized for the typeing error on the doasge,I'm right if I wrote week instead of day.Like I said some info I got was conflicting,I've seen published articles on Sten that say it only contains two types of test,I have also seen articles that say it contains 3 types of test. Sten has been faked.I have also read that it can easily be contaminated.I don't care if you believe me or not,cause I don't give a FUCK.. | ||
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Cool Novice
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Sorry guys, there is no fake sten! Sten costs a dollar per amp in mexico!!! Even in the border towns. Probably costs less further into mexico. Now.. Think about this. Counterfeiting sten would be like counterfeiting dimes! They come in packs of 2 amps and are dirt cheap. Effective dose for sten would be an amp a day or 2 eod. I wouldn't recommend using it though due to the sides. Sten will cause hair loss and acne badly if taken in large amounts. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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THANK YOU STRUCTURED,I NEVER HEARD OF FAKE STEN EITHER. | ||
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What is it that causes the bad sides? What can I take to avoid them? Or should I get Primobolan instead of Sten? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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First off, I know how cheap Sten is in Mexico. That doesn't stop some asshole from buying the cheap stuff and then drawing out the real steroid from the amp. with a hot needle and putting in some oil. So you could have legit amps. with fake or underdosed contents. That's why I think there is fakes of anything out there and I'm far from the only one who thinks this way on these boards. Secondly, I believe that it is the high amount of DHT in Sten that gives it the bad side effects.(I'm not 100% positive on that) Thirdly, Sten is test, primobolan isn't. Primo is more expensive, but it doesn't have as bad of side effects, the gains you get from primo are more permanent and it's a very safe AS. Why Sten anyway? If you want Test. in your cyle go with Sust. or some T-200. Pitbull | ||
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Cool Novice
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Pitbull, It would make no sense to counterfeit sten. And I don't believe ANYONE would go thru the trouble of doing it for some cheap ass test. T200 is cheaper than this shit on a miligram per miligram basis. I've heard of primobolan and deca being taken out of amps because it's pretty expensive. Even in mexico those 2 steroids are pretty expensive. The DHT in the sten is what causes the bad sides. ie; balding and acne. Now if it's something that can be sold for around 15-25 an amp, you're correct about the possibility that someone took it out and replaced the oil. But NOT something that is 1 dollar! Noone would take out shitty test and replace it with shitty test to make NO MONEY!!!!. That's just silly bro. So my opinion is that THEIR IS NO FAKE STEN ON THE BLACK MARKET! It's not saught after like deca or primobolan. And not even the dumbest of people are going to bother with it. If you were a counterfeiter or were taking out gear with a hot needle, wouldnt you take something really good? And not something that noone uses? Anyway, that's just my 2 cents. Later | ||
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Cool Novice
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Almost every type of Anabolic Steriod Has been counterfitted.If you think that Sten has never been counterfitted,then either your an idiot or You Counterfit Steroids.Or maybe your just Unimformed. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I agree with the fact that this would most likely happen with more the expensive AS. But, I 'm not saying that they would take out the test and replace it with diff. test. What they do is take out the test and replace it with just oil, NO STEROID. As far as T-200 being even more shitty than Sten? Well I guess there is a lot of bro's using shitty test in their stacks because a lot of people on this board use it, including myself. And we all know for a fact that T-200 is faked all the time. So why not Sten??? Basically my point has been that you have to be very careful no matter what you are buying these days. Do your research and check for all the tell tale signs BEFORE you buy it. (if possible) Anyway, thanks for the disscusion bro's. Pitbull | ||
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Cool Novice
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As for DigDoggy... You probably don't even use gear. So you shouldn't be in this discussion. This is from you digdoggy "Almost every type of Anabolic Steriod Has been counterfeited." THATS YOUR EXACT QUOTE! "ALMOST"! Tell me which ones have never been counterfeited, and if you pulled together your last brain cells.. Maybe you would understand! I didn't think so......... Now for Pitbull, DO NOT MISQUOTE ME ON SOMETHING I DID NOT WRITE! I NEVER said that t200 was shitty. Don't post things having not read the post bro. I too have used t200. What I meant by that anyway because you don't take the time to read is , t200 is cheaper. t200 goes for 20 bucks in mexico whereas sten goes for about a dollar an amp. Now tell me something......If you were a counterfeiter, would you make MASTERON amps or would you make STEN amps? One of them you can sell for a dollar and one you can sell for 25. And in any case, most fakes are in vials. They can make more money on them!! And pills too! No bodybuilder wants the dht in the sten. And t200 is as readily available as sten. If any of you can give me 1 amp of fake sten, then I will gladly give you 10 sostenon's! | ||
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Cool Novice
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Hey STRUCTURED, I think you should take you head out of your ass. Yes I said Almost every steriod has BEEN faked,I'm not saying that everything out there is fake.I mostly use Vet products,less chance of them being fake. And I have a Farmer/Rancher Freind. By the way you talk I'd say you sell fake juice...... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Listen to me Structured, I read you fucking post! What I got out of it was that you called Sten shitty test. Then you proceeded to say that T-200 is even cheaper. I took it as if you were saying that T-200 was even worse. Sorry if I misinterpreted what you were saying. Next, don't shoot your fucking mouth off about me not reading posts. I read your post, the same as I read all of the posts, and apparently a lot longer than you have. As I said above, (if you read it), you have to be careful no matter what you buy. Now you can believe what you want and I will belive what I want, and never get ripped off. Pitbull
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Cool Novice
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Are you a moron? I would never buy a cycles worth of sten, and never plan on it. Other drugs are a different story. Yeah, you have to be careful with alot of things that you get and MOST everything popular is counterfeted or faked to the EXACT LABEL, AMP, LOT NUMBERS AND SO FORTH!! Some things are easy to spot but some things ARENT!!!! OK...LETS SEE.... COSTS ABOUT 50 CENTS TO MAKE AN AMP OF STEN I WOULD THINK AND THEY SELL FOR AROUND A DOLLAR FOR EACH ONE. YOU ARE SO STUPID TO THINK THAT SOMEONE WOULD FAKE THIS PRODUCT!!!!!!!!! WHY WOULDN'T THEY FAKE SOMETHING LIKE DECA OR PRIMO THAT THEY CAN SELL FOR 12 DOLLARS?!?!?!?!?!? To the guy that has sten, I would NOT worry about it's legitimacy nor would I listen to anything pitbull is saying about this. So pitbill, you can keep thinking you know something about gear by reading your copy of war or musclemag that's in front of you. But you obviously have no common sense. You do have more posts on this board, but less knowledge . So, let me get back to sticking myself with the fake gear. As I only buy fake gear and i'm stupid. Also to the sten info guy, sten comes in packs of 2 amps and has red silkscreen on the amp. The print is red and clear (not like the nile shit all fucked up and not accuate) it's a 2 ml amp, it's an oil based steroid that is almost as thin as water and has the MOST unique smell out of any gear there is. Almost a candy smell to it (very hard to explain but it's veru distinctive). LATER | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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STRUCTURED,YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT,I GUESS YOU AND I HAD THE REAL STUFF.I THINK ITS BECAUSE THERE ALL REAL.I STILL HAVE YET TO SEE A COUNTERFEIT OF STEN. | ||
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First off, I never said anything about you buying a whole cycle of sten???? So YOU must be the moron! I have never read WAR and don't read MuscleTech Mag. Which is what musclemag is, one big advertisement for Muscle tech products. I know what legit Sten looks like and how it works. Used 10 amps on my last cycle. And yes, they were legit. Chucked it in w/ my sust. I'm just stating MY opinion, that I think there are fakes of everything out there and you have to be careful. It wasn't too long ago that E2 stated that he felt there were fakes of everything out there. So don't assume you know everything and run your big mouth off telling people not to listen to me. Everyone, even the likes of you, are entitled to an opinion. Anyway bro, this has been a good debate but it's starting to get real boring. I'll see you around. Pitbull [This message has been edited by ThePitbull (edited June 14, 2000).] | ||
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Lot's of useful info - Thanks guys Didn't mean to start a heated debate. I gather this is some dirty shit, right? What extent are the side effects when stacking 2 amps with 200mg. of Deca? | ||
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Cool Novice
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I WOULD STAY AWAY FROM STEN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!! IT CONTAINS DHT WHICH IS THE CULPRIT OF PROSTATE PROBLEMS,BALDING,ETC.EVEN DAN DUCHAINE SAID THAT NO ATHLETE SHOULD EVER USE IT,UNLESS IT IS THE ONLY THING YOU CAN FIND.USE SUST INSTEAD,IT IS SAFER AND MORE EFFECTIVE.I PERSONALLY HAVE NEVER SEEN FAKE STEN BUT...WHO KNOWS?! | ||
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Cool Novice
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My 2 cents, from what I understand Sten has changed its original formal which in high dosages would cause side affects like any gear will. Also I have never seen fake Sten, it may exist, but never have seen any. It wouldnt make since to counterfiet pennys. Also I have used sten, do 2 to 4 amps a week and you will get good safe results. I got great strength gains and some size, but more strength than anything. But that was also a couple of years ago. I did have some and was thinking about throwing it in with ny Sus.250 for an extra kick. Later!! | ||
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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST....... I've never seen such a fucking flame-a-thon over conjecture and simple misunderstandings, for the most part. You know, it's really funny how tough everyone talks on these chat boards. Could you imagine if we were all in a gym together, just a few athletic gear enthusiasts discussing the value of a STEN cycle and whether or not it is possibly faked in our respective opinions. Do any of you think the topic being discused would go anything like this???? If it did it would become a fucking bloodbath. Seriously, we would probably just compare experiences and ideas and take from it what we could. Well, here's my .02 for what it's worth (1 amp of STEN perhaps???). I have used Sten a number of times with great results. I don't think Test Cypionate and Propionate suck and the DHT isn't that bad. As to the fakery, I doubt that someone would have much to gain from faking such cheap gear. Do I know for sure that there has never been a fake STEN produced? Of course not. Anyway, whats his name above never said that a fake AMPULE was manufactured, he just said that someone may have used the hot needle extraction method (by the way, when someone does this, doesn't thae inactive oil leak out of the hole after the replacement? Just curious), which isn't that unlikely. Plenty of people would want real Test Cyp and Prop for free. Whoever said that NO bodybuilders would ever use STEN doesn't know much at all about bodybuilders and their gear choices. That wasn't a flame, just a fact. Anyway, it's been real...... It's been fun........ But has it hasn't been real fun...........  | ||
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I don't really want to get involved in this string of arguements, but and easy way to spot real sten is that is smells like candy. ------------------ | ||
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STEN DOES NOT CONTAIN DHT!!! IT CONTAINS DHEA, YES WAR AND UNDERGROUND STEROID HANDBOOK SAY THAT IT DOES, BUT DAN DUCHAINE EVEN WROTE AN ARTICLE CORRECTING HIMSELF AND SAYING THAT STEN DOES NOT CONTAIN DHT, IT CONTAINS DHEA. | ||
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Cool Novice
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I checked into that and YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!!!! It's nice to learn something valuable from this annoying thread. So I guess the argument that STEN is somehow "dirty" or not worth using can now be put to rest forever. It's an effective blend and the only drawback is that it is underdosed, but it comes in a pack of 2 so who fucking cares??? Quit whining about frequent injections and start growing!!!!! It's cheap and it works...... | ||
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OH MY GOD...This was me when I was fairly new to the board...Why the hell is this thread still alive? ------------------ Visit my website (free of all Musclehedz pictures) at http://profiles.elitefitness.com | ||
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Cool Novice
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HOW BOUT THIS, IVE HAD A BROWN GROCERY BAG FULL IN MY FRIDGE FOR ABOUT A YEAR, CANT EVEN GIVE IT OUT!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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STEN converts to DHT at a high rate,but does NOT contain pure DHT!!! It would be absolutely STUPID to fake Sten.MAYBE they can be tampered with after manufacture,but its a waste of time to fake something that costs about.25 to make in the lab.People who make fake shit want to make the MOST amount off of each amp!!!! J | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Oh no, not this stupid thread again.  Can't you just let this fucker die???????? ------------------ | ||
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damn man!!! other peoples kids  | ||
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This is kinda like looking at old pictures of when I was a little chubby kid. | ||
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Back to the top you go! HA! I just had a question for you guys. (2) 2cc amps of Sten come per box? Is this right? So each amp of Sten contains on 120mg? That just sucks! 2cc's and 120mg. Oh well...........I paid $8 bucks for each sten amp.....i mean, is that a good price? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I paid $5 for two amps last time... Kneepads recently informed me I got fucked.. Should have been more like $2-3 for two amps. | ||
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Cool Novice
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DigDog, are yu hearing an echo from everybody here? thats cuz youve got your head up your ass!! No One. No one..has ever reported fake sten, and your first 2-6 amops a day? 12 CC's of oil a day? ok, even 12 cc's of opil week for aweek test? that much sten w/ youll lose all your hair before you gain a pound! thanks for the laugh, I hope no one takes your advice, hell i wouldnt even let you boil eggs for breakfast! | ||
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I can't beleive it.......I've been gone for a couple of months and when I return, this thread is still going strong. To all you picky, amateur, whiners on this thread........if STEN is not worth using ONLY because of the 120mg per 2 cc dosage, I guess none of you have ever used Deca, Poise, or any other steroid that is dosed at 50 mg a cc because they would be just as worthless, right???? You fucking nancy boys need to quit bitching about frequent injections and get serious. Test Enth and prop is a great blend and since STEN does NOT contain DHT, that isn't even a worry. As to the liar who claims to have a bag full of STEN that he can't even give away, I will gladly supply a mailing addy to take those off of your hands. You are obviously lying and if you're scared of gear, stick with MUSCLETECH supps you puss, don't waste the real deal by keeping it in your fridge. Fucking liar....... |
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